No, not all of it is. And most of it is a diversion from news that REALLY needs to be heard.
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No, not all of it is. And most of it is a diversion from news that REALLY needs to be heard.
I did read the entire post, Possum, and no, it still isn't funny (if that's what you were intending it to be.) Also, Bashir and Paris just being in Star Trek as Middle Easterners should be enough, IMHO.
As long as they are generic with no defining traits we find objectionable?
Most shows don't have to take a stand about the sorts of compromises that billions of people would have to make to get along in a secular utopia without intra-planetary war. If Star Trek gets into the specifics of, say, how particular inflexible doctrines that a lot of people follow today have been blunted to become more accommodating and make the utopia work, then that risks alienating swaths of the audience. Doing that requires boldly sticking their necks out.
The alternative at the other extreme from getting into specifics is to show a Rorschach inkblot of diversity crafted to make most people happy while staying vague: a diverse cast in uniform so that there's no need for specific cultural symbols, except maybe in blink-and-you miss-them instances of symbols just lying about in the background, on walls, shelves, etc., that don't necessarily have to represent anybody's beliefs in particular and also don't necessarily don't. Doing that, you can check the diversity boxes, but there isn't any narrative content.
Perhaps the obvious choice for taking things both literally and by the horn is to go out into human colonies. Maybe the utopia on Earth comes at a price of hard-liners going out into space to set up their own colonies that are ideologically "purer." That could allow DSC to approach cultural issues more from the same angle that other contemporary dramas do, by letting them off the hook of having to make big sweeping pronouncements on how people have ironed everything out, since in that case, maybe they haven't.
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Nope........not yet.
I don't find it funny. Non-binary people exist, asexual people exist, people in poly relationships exist. Star Trek sticking to cis, heteronormative people is not enough.
Well...
Do you really count them as being from the Middle East because of their skin color and accent? Part of being representative of a culture is actually having characteristics of that culture beyond what is skin deep.
Window dressing is good enough, you don't want to scare off the bigots.
YOUR words, not mine.
These are your words...
Which say exactly what you meant them to say. Tokens should be enough to make people happy.
Admiral Paris wasn't even a character. She was just a source of expository dialogue. We know nothing about who she was as a person.
I guess that's good enough for some.
I guess that's good enough for some.
In the spinoffs, it seems that Western culture has pretty much taken over the Federation. Starfleet is out fighting for truth, justice and the 1950's American way.
I count them as being both of Midde Eastern decent because of (in the case of Bashir) the name, the skin color, and (in Paris's case) the accent; as I said, I consider Paris being of Iranian decent due to the actress playing her. :spock:
Which Paris are we even talking about? The one from Voyager or Star Trek Beyond?
The one from VOY was clearly Middle Eastern.Which Paris are we even talking about? The one from Voyager or Star Trek Beyond?
If you squint really, really, hard.
And are asleep.
Or drunk.
Or high.
Or all of the above.
She was identified as "Admiral", so I wanted to make sure. She was actually a Commodore in Star Trek Beyond.
Admiral. Commodore. What's the difference.
Also, I had forgotten that she was a commodore. Good catch.
Doctor Julian Subotai Bashir doesn't ring a bell? Or Commodore Paris (of Iranian desecent even though the name's not Iranian?)
The remarks you responded to had nothing to do with "being from the middle
east," so what was your point in replying at all?
Beyond.Which Paris are we even talking about? The one from Voyager or Star Trek Beyond?
The one from Voyager at least had some sort of relationship with his son, but it was pretty vague.
If they wanted the Commodore to be middle-eastern, why not give her an actual middle-eastern name? Why cop out and call her "Paris"? Couldn't have been that much trouble to change the name.
Has Western culture become so sensitive that we are now threatened by names that sound foreign?
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