Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2
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LOL--well that's a given.
Out of context, I thought we were talking about Knight Rider for no reason.
I miss Knight Rider.
Supergirl--
"Alex"
SG/Kara: Her hotheaded routine is tiring, as she should be experienced enough (even under stressful situations) to stop overreacting like some rookie Superheroine...or perhaps that's the point--she's still immature where her costumed job is concerned.
Alex: "When I get out of here, I will end you!" Really? She's the one who was captured with ease, now she's back to would-be "badass" mode? Wonder Woman she's not.
Rick's "finding out who loves her more" - Sigh. Going overboard selling the Alex/Maggie relationship when they have not known each other long enough to support Rick's theory. Alex is still sort of lukewarm / robotic while Maggie seems like she's in crush mode, instead of the love written in the script.
Rick: Good moment as he stares down Supergirl's heat vison threat. Not a single ounce of fear in him.
Quickly dismantled J'onn's "dad" deception. Nice.
At least the plot had the father continue protecting his son by helping when it counted, and not be the ass Kara thought he was earlier.
Maggie: You mean some cop is barely having the "superhero envy" conversation this late in the game? Of course, this was so forced into Maggie's plot only to give her some sort of thin "bonding" development with Supergirl by way of Alex in the middle..
"I have just as much to lose as you" What forced, showrunner BS. Alex is SG's sister--past, present & forever, not some girlfriend who might not last.
"Watch him?" She has no authority to give anyone orders at the DEO. Such nonsense.
Unless Maggie has verifiable business at a maximum security prison, there's no way she can just walk in--particularly on the prisoner block and remove anyone. More unbelievable nonsense.
Lena: With Lena knowing Rhea is an alien, and hearing the "son" story, it should not be long before she drags Supergirl into whatever she's planning with Rhea / reveal she knows SG is Kara, hence the question she needed to ask her.
Rhea: Matter transfer. You can see where that will go in the future... / Chuckled at the spin job of how her husband died. Her "Thank the gods" - It was minor setback I believed it to be.
James: Who? Seriously, Brooks has more screen time in the Subaru spots running during the show than the series where he has second billing (for the moment). Knowing this show, the producers would not surprising anyone to have James killed off in this Rhea plot (or any they can slap together), finally hammering the final nail in the coffin constructed by the anti-James / pro-Mon-El fans.
NOTES:
Supergirl receiving a bait call from the villain while at the news media job--plucked right from the Luthor contacting Superman scene from the Donner film.
..as if that sticky-fingered business was not enough, Alex digging her tracker out to signal was the transponder removal from Star Trek's "Patterns of Force" --the intent was the same: the act as some means of escape, whether one destroyed a jail lock, or signaled for help..
I see its now a knee-slapping, LOL moment for a prisoner to be physically abused. Oh, the messages on this show.
GRADE: D.
"Alex"
SG/Kara: Her hotheaded routine is tiring, as she should be experienced enough (even under stressful situations) to stop overreacting like some rookie Superheroine...or perhaps that's the point--she's still immature where her costumed job is concerned.
Alex: "When I get out of here, I will end you!" Really? She's the one who was captured with ease, now she's back to would-be "badass" mode? Wonder Woman she's not.
Rick's "finding out who loves her more" - Sigh. Going overboard selling the Alex/Maggie relationship when they have not known each other long enough to support Rick's theory. Alex is still sort of lukewarm / robotic while Maggie seems like she's in crush mode, instead of the love written in the script.
Rick: Good moment as he stares down Supergirl's heat vison threat. Not a single ounce of fear in him.
Quickly dismantled J'onn's "dad" deception. Nice.
At least the plot had the father continue protecting his son by helping when it counted, and not be the ass Kara thought he was earlier.
Maggie: You mean some cop is barely having the "superhero envy" conversation this late in the game? Of course, this was so forced into Maggie's plot only to give her some sort of thin "bonding" development with Supergirl by way of Alex in the middle..
"I have just as much to lose as you" What forced, showrunner BS. Alex is SG's sister--past, present & forever, not some girlfriend who might not last.
"Watch him?" She has no authority to give anyone orders at the DEO. Such nonsense.
Unless Maggie has verifiable business at a maximum security prison, there's no way she can just walk in--particularly on the prisoner block and remove anyone. More unbelievable nonsense.
Lena: With Lena knowing Rhea is an alien, and hearing the "son" story, it should not be long before she drags Supergirl into whatever she's planning with Rhea / reveal she knows SG is Kara, hence the question she needed to ask her.
Rhea: Matter transfer. You can see where that will go in the future... / Chuckled at the spin job of how her husband died. Her "Thank the gods" - It was minor setback I believed it to be.
James: Who? Seriously, Brooks has more screen time in the Subaru spots running during the show than the series where he has second billing (for the moment). Knowing this show, the producers would not surprising anyone to have James killed off in this Rhea plot (or any they can slap together), finally hammering the final nail in the coffin constructed by the anti-James / pro-Mon-El fans.
NOTES:
Supergirl receiving a bait call from the villain while at the news media job--plucked right from the Luthor contacting Superman scene from the Donner film.
..as if that sticky-fingered business was not enough, Alex digging her tracker out to signal was the transponder removal from Star Trek's "Patterns of Force" --the intent was the same: the act as some means of escape, whether one destroyed a jail lock, or signaled for help..
I see its now a knee-slapping, LOL moment for a prisoner to be physically abused. Oh, the messages on this show.
GRADE: D.
Yeah, the "you can just walk in there and get him out" thing was a major head-shaker for me...and I have to wonder why this device that's made to be hidden under somebody's skin is basically a Christmas light.
Oh yeah, and Taking People Prisoner 101: If you don't strip them down completely, you at least take things like their belt....
Oh yeah, and Taking People Prisoner 101: If you don't strip them down completely, you at least take things like their belt....
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Somebody must've stolen your keyboard and typed the wrong letter, because this episode doesn't deserve anything less than an 'A'.
I feel Supergirl has been getting too gung-ho lately, too aggressive. The Supergirl of season 1 probably wouldn't have needed Maggie to lecture her about excessive force, or at least wouldn't have been so reluctant to listen. Hopefully this episode's events will reverse that trend.
It bugs me that Rhea saying "Thank the gods" made Lena conclude she was an alien. There are polytheistic religions on Earth.
Nice to see Malina Weissman again, even if it was a reuse of a flashback we've seen before (which was itself a reuse of a deleted scene from the pilot, I think). The way Rick Malverne figured out that Kara was Supergirl was reminiscent of how the DC Animated Universe version of Lana Lang figured out that Clark was Superman -- which is appropriate, since the Silver Age Dick Malverne was Supergirl's "Lana Lang," the love interest who suspected that both her identities were the same person and was a constant nuisance in trying to prove it.
It bugs me that Rhea saying "Thank the gods" made Lena conclude she was an alien. There are polytheistic religions on Earth.
Nice to see Malina Weissman again, even if it was a reuse of a flashback we've seen before (which was itself a reuse of a deleted scene from the pilot, I think). The way Rick Malverne figured out that Kara was Supergirl was reminiscent of how the DC Animated Universe version of Lana Lang figured out that Clark was Superman -- which is appropriate, since the Silver Age Dick Malverne was Supergirl's "Lana Lang," the love interest who suspected that both her identities were the same person and was a constant nuisance in trying to prove it.
The writers/producers had to have forgotten that they'd already used the Dick/Rick Malverne character in the Pilot, but he wasn't actually named onscreen, so there's some wiggle-room here.
The only entry for Malverne in either the Arrowverse Wiki or IMDb is for the kid from the flashbacks seen in "Manhunter," the same flashback events featured here. As I said, that flashback sequence was shot for the pilot but ultimately cut out of it, and then worked into "Manhunter." So there is no inconsistency. It's the same Rick Malverne.
The guy that Kara goes on a blind date with in the Pilot was originally credited as "Dick Malverne"; however, as noted, he wasn't named onscreen. It's possible that the character's name was changed after-the-fact between when the Pilot was originally shot and when it first aired, though, since the "final credits" I found for the episode don't list him.
Well, the kid in the "Manhunter" flashbacks was credited as Rick Malverne in that episode. So the name change was made over a year ago.
^ For some reason, I hadn't made that connection until now, but it does make me wonder why the decision was made to reuse the name/character for "Manhunter" when, as noted, they'd already originally assigned the name to Kara's blind date from the Pilot.
No great mystery there. As you said, they didn't use the name onscreen, so that meant they were free to use it again when they had a better use for it.
Heck, they've done that before even when the name was onscreen. Remember that TV news report of the STAR Labs accelerator explosion that was first seen in the Barry Allen 2-parter on Arrow and then reused in the Flash pilot? The reporter played by Olivia Cheng in that footage was named Linda Park in the onscreen caption, but that didn't stop them from subsequently using the same name for Malese Jow's significantly younger character who was a newspaper sports reporter instead.
I think sometimes they jump the gun in using major supporting characters' names in minor roles. Like how The Flash used the name Jason Rusch for a minor character in the original Firestorm arc -- which forced them to use a more obscure comics character, Jefferson Jackson, as the second Firestorm instead of Jason. In that case, the characters had actually spoken the name Jason Rusch aloud, so it wasn't as easy to gloss over as Linda Park was.
I've seen a few places continuing to immediately jump to the conclusion that Lena's going dark now based on what happened last week with Jack and now with this business partnership with Rhea, but she clearly doesn't know, at least that we've seen, that Rhea is hostile, even though she does now know that she's an alien, and so there's no reason, from Lena's perspective, not to work with Rhea, lies about being human notwithstanding.
You are correct. Interestingly, if Kara had not brushed Lena away when she tried to ask Kara for advice, things probably would have turned out differently. I am sure Kara would have warned Lena against working with Rhea. Not getting advice from Kara, put Lena in a situation where she had to decide on her own, and ultimately she decides to work with Rhea.
True, there are polytheistic religions in the world but Rhea appears to Lena to be a caucasian woman, raised in the US. It is extremely rare to find a white American use such a polytheistic expression as "thank the gods" in public. So it makes sense that it would have raised a red flag in Lena's mind.
I say "gods" just to piss people off.
I also refer to God as a woman for the same reason.
If Lena was a Human being and not a Luthor, she would have said "oh wow, you like Battlestar Galactica? Me too, it's frakking amazeballs."
Blunt as #### by the way.
Kara needed a slap for being sanctimonious when nothing had validated her earlier behaviour.
I also refer to God as a woman for the same reason.
If Lena was a Human being and not a Luthor, she would have said "oh wow, you like Battlestar Galactica? Me too, it's frakking amazeballs."
Blunt as #### by the way.
Kara needed a slap for being sanctimonious when nothing had validated her earlier behaviour.
Unusual, perhaps, but hardly impossible. There are white Americans who are Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, Wiccans, New-Age pagans, all sorts of other things. And Lena grew up in a very cosmopolitan city (Metropolis) and now lives in another (National City). So she should have plenty of experience with religious diversity overlapping with ethnic diversity.
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