Looks like the Klingon Sarcophagus ship might be very real!

[TheSublimeGoose]

They sure didn't look Klingon at first, but assuming the 'sarcophagus' is full of ancient "proto-Klingons" from millennia ago, it could work.

IF the leaked "Klingon Picture" turns out to actually show Klingons- then I'm going with your theory. That they're proto-Klingons awakened from cryogenic sleep/stasis/whatever.

And this falls in line with the "no reliance on time travel for season 1" comment.

A sleeper ship definitely isn't technically time travel.

 

[Tesophius]

There was a TNG episode of ancient Klingons thinking that they're at war with the Federation. A pretty boring episode.

 

[TheSublimeGoose]

There was a TNG episode of ancient Klingons thinking that they're at war with the Federation. A pretty boring episode.

I wouldn't call them ancient. They were no more than, what, 50-100 years old?

Proto-Klingons could represent an entirely different presentation of Klingon culture.

 

[Tesophius]

Yeah, I don't remember how old they were, but in that range. I hope they're not going to be Klingons from a thousand years ago, the lack of technological change between the years is one of the things I dislike about StarTrek.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Then again, isn't it implied that the only reason the Klingons even have spaceflight technology is that they stole it from the Hur'q? (Like on Voyager, where all of the Kazon technology is actually stolen from the Trabe.) That could explain why they haven't advanced very far since then.

 

[Draculasaurus]

The more I think about the ancient Klingon idea, the more I like it.

 

[TheSublimeGoose]

Yeah, I don't remember how old they were, but in that range. I hope they're not going to be Klingons from a thousand years ago, the lack of technological change between the years is one of the things I dislike about StarTrek.

Then again, isn't it implied that the only reason the Klingons even have spaceflight technology is that they stole it from the Hur'q? (Like on Voyager, where all of the Kazon technology is actually stolen from the Trabe.) That could explain why they haven't advanced very far since then.

Yeah, I mean... I could see the Klingons taking spaceflight (warp drive?) technology from the Hur'q and not advancing all that much over however many years. Simply because, the Klingon Empire has so few scientists. Over the course of how many series, how many seasons... we've seen, what? Two Klingon scientists? The one from the metaphasic shielding TNG episode, and the one studying the augment virus in the last season of ENT. Those are the only two I could think of.

Point being, a slow technological progress would be at least plausible. The advancements that Klingon scientists make drip in slowly, supplemented by the conquering of other races.

 

[Ganderplus]

Isn't is possible 'sarcophagus' is meant to be taken literally, as in flesh-eating, rather than some sort of sleeper ship?

 

[Dukhat]

Isn't is possible 'sarcophagus' is meant to be taken literally, as in flesh-eating, rather than some sort of sleeper ship?

I doubt it.

 

[TheSublimeGoose]

Isn't is possible 'sarcophagus' is meant to be taken literally, as in flesh-eating, rather than some sort of sleeper ship?

While it's a novel idea, I highly doubt that they would utilize the Greek origins of a term that is already declining in use in the English language. The etymology of a specific term is most likely something main-stream audiences aren't going to clue in on.

 

[Ganderplus]

While it's a novel idea, I highly doubt that they would utilize the Greek origins of a term that is already declining in use in the English language. The etymology of a specific term is most likely something main-stream audiences aren't going to clue in on.

There's nothing reason to assume the term is meant to be used on screen.

 

[saddestmoon]

Isn't is possible 'sarcophagus' is meant to be taken literally, as in flesh-eating, rather than some sort of sleeper ship?

I'm glad you mentioned this, as I was also thinking about the meaning of the word, the other night.

'sarcophagus' as a term / descriptor could be a literal interpretation of the word (as you mentioned: Flesh-eating) as opposed to it simply referring to a funerary / burial vessel - or it could be both.

Visually, the concept art of the ship lends itself to a funerary object, insofar that it looks more decorative, busy and almost ornamental, in comparison to others types of Klingon starship (imo).

Even if it's none of these things, it still stands out for being fairly unique looking - having a BOP-esque silhouette, with a busy ornamental patterning on its exterior.

Whatever it is, I'm intrigued!

 

[publiusr]

God, I hope so. That looks awfully fancy for a 'modern' Klingon ship of the pre-TOS era. One of those sketches almost looks like a 40K Imperial ship.

I liked that one as well.

The others need to be Xindi reptilian

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

One of those sketches almost looks like a 40K Imperial ship.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. And the rest look like Eldar/Dark Eldar Battlefleet Gothic ships!

 

[publiusr]

That's what the Ori ships should have looked like--with the tiara-type ships being ancient designs--looking like flying stargates after all.

 

[Space Coast]

I was thinking exactly the same thing. And the rest look like Eldar/Dark Eldar Battlefleet Gothic ships!

I mean, there's nothing wrong with copying 40K - it's been a big enough franchise to warrant that kind of attention for a while now - but it really should be a new species, not modifying an old species.

 

[Ing3nu]

The concept art I saw also had something about "texture treatment" written on it, which would suggest that they are "feely" pieces, rather than literal designs. For a TV show that's a LOT of fiddly detail to produce unless it's going to be a regular set piece.

 

[midnightz]

The concept art I saw also had something about "texture treatment" written on it, which would suggest that they are "feely" pieces, rather than literal designs. For a TV show that's a LOT of fiddly detail to produce unless it's going to be a regular set piece.

Yup; I think these images are early concept 'mood board' illustrations, that would normally be redrawn/revised for practicality...

 

[Kor]

Oh joy, a ship full of dead Klingon corpses.

Was this when they were still practicing mummification, before the time when a dead body was considered just an empty shell to be disposed of?

Kor

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Was this when they were still practicing mummification, before the time when a dead body was considered just an empty shell to be disposed of?

There are probably a wide variety of beliefs on that point. Some Klingons might believe the dead body is only a shell to be discarded, others believe it must be protected and carefully buried. Humans have a similar range of burial customs as well, don't they?