Peters really did all their work for them. Anyone that got curious by one of those articles would find plenty once they started digging of lies, temper tantrums, carpet and coffee.
CBS never needed to say a word.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Peters really did all their work for them. Anyone that got curious by one of those articles would find plenty once they started digging of lies, temper tantrums, carpet and coffee.
CBS never needed to say a word.
Give AP hell, Donors!
Good to see he is still trying to claim some kind of victory. The more I read from Peters, the more I'm convinced this isn't over.
^Yup, he cannot leave any perceived slight against him unanswered. He's in a position to just toss out whatever quality Axanar product he can afford/be bothered to complete and then move on but any internet comment he feels is unfair is like an itch he has to scratch. Based on these responses this thread isn't going anywhere.
The lawsuit, nor its settlement, cannot compel anyone to do anything who is not a party to the suit. So, yes, I can confidently tell you that things will prove interesting over time
Dammit Carlos, I just broke my other thumb hitting the "like" button
If there is no money to be made, Axanar will never be made. Alec has drunk from the ocean of fandom and he's not going back. Brace yourselves, NASCAR!
Now I want a 100 Grand bar!
^^^^Haven't browsed through TampAxanar's feed for a bit.......
You know what's sad? Technically, he is correct. Alec Peters didn't market his 'product to Netflix...BUT, he ATTEMPTED to market his product to Netflix (and Amazon). (But while technically that statement isn't a lie - it IS deceptive as to what his intent was. Bottom line: he's still a Scam artist.)
Mind the Asterick as You Enter and Leave the Train
I would argue he didn't *sell* his product to Netflix. But any attempt to pitch or obtain attention to make a pitch constitutes *marketing* activities.
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Real professionals STFU and deliver the results.
His sycophantdom is enabling his crapping-out-on-professionalism.
Hello all, I apologize for interjecting and don't mean to derail, but I'm having trouble finding something. Didn't John Vam Citters say at some point that fan films already filmed or in production would be except from the guidlines? Does anybody have a link to this or can point me in the right direction?
It's probably irrelevant, but I feel like some of the Axanar faithful will sling that around, since it's been hard for them to grasp that since it is CBS/Paramount's property they can be a selective as they want about how they enforce their rights.
It's probably irrelevant, but I feel like some of the Axanar faithful will sling that around, since it's been hard for them to grasp that since it is CBS/Paramount's property they can be a selective as they want about how they enforce their rights.
Not irrelevant or an interruption at all. I will let the attorneys/journalists answer/interpret what Mr. VanCritters said. But even without legal qualifications I think I can say that since Axanar signed a stipulation, that is 1000% what applies to them. I think all anyone has yet seen about that document is what Alec has reported.
Although I don't have a link, I believe you are right. HOWEVER (big however) The settlement reached by Axanar and CBS/Paramount will supercede the guidelines
I think the statement was more that anything that was already up on YouTube would not have to come down, and that moving forward they'd treat everything new on a case-by-case basis.
What a lot of Axanar faithful also don't seem to grasp is that Peters agreed to an even more stringent set of rules as part of the settlement, so in Axanar's case they're no longer "guidelines" but "requirements".
Thanks you both for the reply. I understand that they're requirements for for the settlement, just arguing the Van Citters words with someone who demanded proof of me.
The 'Axanar Faithful' can 'sing' all they want, but Alec Peters (and Axanar) are now BOUND by whatever terms exist in the Settlement Agreement they made with CBS/Paramount. If they (Alec Peters/Axanar Productions) break any of the terms they agreed to - they are probably subject to damages (again anything of that nature is spelled out in the Settlement Agreement) and ANOTHER lawsuit.
Not to mention the fact that by Alec peters own comments - there are still some legal steps Axanar needs to take to be in full compliance with the Settlement Agreement and they have 60 days from the date the agreement was announced to take care of those issues. Axanar didn't suddenly;y become 'just another fan film working with the Guidlines' again; I'm sure the agreement specifies EXACTLY what they can and cannot do with regard to the Axanar feature - and if they violate the agreement I don't think CBS/Paramount will settle again with a second lawsuit - they'll take it to trial - win a HUGE damage award and make an example of Alec Peters should he not 100% comply with the Settlement Agreement that was made.
Oh, and if you're waiting for teh terms of the full agreement to be made public, they probably won't. I'm sure both sides agreed to what each side can say regarding the agreement in public; and that is all you'll ever hear.
How many people actually took the time to dig into the background of the story verses how many people simply read Newsweek and walked away saying CBS is a bunch of jerks?? I suspect the second number is much, much higher.
It's time for CBS to set the record straight.
I also have to believe that if AP is hauled back in court for breaking the Settlement Agreement, he will not have Winston&Strawn representing him.
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