So do I, but the specific comment I was responding to mentioned JLU exclusively, so that shaped my response. And I was rather unimpressed by its debut episode.
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So do I, but the specific comment I was responding to mentioned JLU exclusively, so that shaped my response. And I was rather unimpressed by its debut episode.
Sorry, I guess I was referring to all 5 seasons as "JLU".... I don't even remember which particular episode (the soft reboot) debuted with... so while it obviously wasn't that memorable, it also was very far from unimpressive.... the older shows never gave me a doubt as to whether I was going to tune in again... whereas this one.... you get my point.
(trivia - the DC DVD animated movie Crisis on Two Earths was actually supposed to take place between the two Justice League shows... you can still see all of the influences that would have bridged directly into JLU within the movie's script.)
http://dcau.wikia.com/wiki/Initiation
It was a focus on Green Arrow, Captain Atom, and Supergirl. I liked Supergirl, but the others were nobodies to me at the time. I mean, Green Arrow? Who'd be interested in a show about that guy?
There have been a number of shows whose premieres didn't impress me at all, but that grew on me over time. Of course, I haven't seen JL Action yet, so I have no idea if I'll see any potential in it.
Yeah, I know. I wish they'd just gone ahead and made that as a DCAU movie -- or else rewritten it more substantially so that it wasn't so obvious that it should've been in the DCAU (which just made me more disappointed at the mediocre voice casting). But at least the premise of the movie allows me to assume that it's a close alternate-timeline parallel of what actually happened in the DCAU between "Star-Crossed" and "Initiation."
Completely agree with every word of it. Its not like the DVDs have much internal continuity, so making it DCAU wouldn't have hurt anything. Especially since they changed everything after Flashpoint anyways. It is close to fitting, but not quite.... the wrong version of Aquaman at the end, the wrong Lantern, etc..... yet still bridging the gap with the satellite, the expanded roster, the stolen cloaked jet, etc. Maybe its from the timeline that Hal Jordan pops in from for 10 seconds as a gag lol. God, do I agree with the voice casting. DCAU was flawless....
Well, the DVD movies intentionally had no continuity before 2014. The only two that were in the same reality as each other were the two Superman/Batman ones. That's why they didn't do Co2E as a DCAU movie -- because their specific policy at the time was to make each one a complete standalone. Which is why I find it odd that they left so much of the original JL/JLU connective tissue in the movie instead of writing it out.
I would have much preferred if it had remained in DCAU continuity, I didn't really see why it couldn't have been.
The U.K aired the first episode already. Here is the credits
Definitely don't get why the end credits are the old JLU theme music.
Definitely has no plot, childish characterizations.
A waste of Kevin Conroy, thats for sure.
Wonder Woman seems like a teen side kick.
I hoped it could be Brave and the Bold Part II. Sadly....
Definitely has no plot, childish characterizations.
A waste of Kevin Conroy, thats for sure.
Wonder Woman seems like a teen side kick.
I hoped it could be Brave and the Bold Part II. Sadly....
Episode 6 was really good.
90s Batman homage.
90s Batman homage.
Agreed, Guy. It didn't even feel like the same show. Conroy shines and completely lifts the material. The entire vibe of this episode was different. It felt like a DCAU version of a Brave and the Bold episode, what with Beetle and Bats. Terrible voice and personality from Cronos, though. To have that in the same episode as a BTAS homage and the Falcone's seemed a bit jarring. The Grundy episode wasn't too bad, either, and I liked the Constantine appearance. Firestorm's personality is terrible. The comedy is a complete miss. The 10 minute run time rushes the plots completely. This show doesn't know what it wants to be.
CBR's writer liked the first episode of JLA.
The US premiere is tonight, although I work late so I'll have to watch it on the CN app later.
EDIT: I also found Io9's review, and while it was more critical than CBR's, they still said if you just accept it for what it is it's pretty fun.
The US premiere is tonight, although I work late so I'll have to watch it on the CN app later.
EDIT: I also found Io9's review, and while it was more critical than CBR's, they still said if you just accept it for what it is it's pretty fun.
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I actually liked this a lot. It wasn't as much of a nonstop action show as I'd heard; there were a lot of good moments of characterization and humor, and a lot of it worked very well. These are effective and likeable versions of the characters, in many cases. Wonder Woman is fun, and the interplay between Batman and Carl Reiner's Wizard Shazam was terrific. Some of the voices will take some getting used to, though; it's weird to have a Plastic Man who isn't Tom Kenny and a Constantine who isn't Matt Ryan (plus, why is Constantine even in a kids' show?), and it's awkward to have Billy Batson played by Sean Astin pitching his voice high instead of either an actual boy or a woman (e.g. Tara Strong, who's done Billy before).
There were some very clever moments in the action, too -- I was grinning when I realized why they'd had Calythos absorb Martian Manhunter's powers.
Still, there were some plot glitches resulting from doing a single story across four segments apparently written by different people. Like, first Jimmy Olsen had the insight that Calythos was absorbing people's powers because he'd possessed/merged with the Parasite, but then in the next segment everyone was assuming the power draining was Calythos's own ability. And there were only five demons to deal with even though Black Adam sent dozens through before those five. And the Wizard said he'd sent Black Adam to the far side of the galaxy, but in the final segment it was changed to the distant past. I'm surprised nobody caught those discrepancies.
There were some very clever moments in the action, too -- I was grinning when I realized why they'd had Calythos absorb Martian Manhunter's powers.
Still, there were some plot glitches resulting from doing a single story across four segments apparently written by different people. Like, first Jimmy Olsen had the insight that Calythos was absorbing people's powers because he'd possessed/merged with the Parasite, but then in the next segment everyone was assuming the power draining was Calythos's own ability. And there were only five demons to deal with even though Black Adam sent dozens through before those five. And the Wizard said he'd sent Black Adam to the far side of the galaxy, but in the final segment it was changed to the distant past. I'm surprised nobody caught those discrepancies.
I'm confused. I saw the Calythos/Parasite/Martian Manhunter one, but most of the rest of what you are talking about is gibberish to me. I've seen 6 10 minute episodes. What segments are you talking about? Shazam and Black Adam weren't in the episode I saw, either.
I stand by my opinions that the comedy does not work at all and everything is extremely rushed with a lot of cheesy lines, and the plots are far from deep or thought provoking. How can you have an interesting plot when 2 minutes in, a quarter of your show is over, and you've done nothing but over the top action scenes with hamfisted dialogue?
I stand by my opinions that the comedy does not work at all and everything is extremely rushed with a lot of cheesy lines, and the plots are far from deep or thought provoking. How can you have an interesting plot when 2 minutes in, a quarter of your show is over, and you've done nothing but over the top action scenes with hamfisted dialogue?
The premiere episode on Cartoon Network tonight was an hourlong special called "Shazam Slam." It was four 11-minute segments telling a connected story.
It's called Justice League Action, not Justice League Deep and Thought-Provoking. We've known from the start that it would be a lightweight, action-driven show aimed at kids. I didn't have high hopes for it, but I found the humor and characterizations more entertaining than I'd expected. You don't have to agree with that. If it didn't work for you, fine, but it worked okay for me.
It might be what its supposed to be, but its not quite enough for me. So close, yet so far. I have a problem with modern producers feel that "aimed at kids" entails. I'm sticking with it for more Kevin Conroy Batman... .even though, his character feels so incredibly out of place with most of the others. Yeah, in 7 episodes, no Shazam yet for me... odd, if its a connected story, which might have been much more fulfilling for me. So far, with watching disconnected small chunks, it feels more like slightly longer versions of what Brave and the Bold did in their introductions, before introducing the longer story. I wonder if the ones I've seen were mislabeled and out of order, or if the 4 premiere episodes were just grouped together, but actually not sequential episodes?
Only the premiere is a connected story, four individual segments telling a larger whole so it could be shown in an hour-long slot. The rest of the series is 11-minute standalones. I don't know where you're watching it, but apparently they aren't showing it in the same order as Cartoon Network.
Cartoon Network UK debuted the series close to 5 weeks ago. Apparently, CN-UK broadcast order isn't in production order, or accounted for the connectedness of the US premiere's hour long presentation.
UK airings thus far...
Power Outage Nov 26
Follow that Space Cab
Nuclear Family Values
Zombie King
Galaxy Jest
Time Share
I missed it as well. Hopefully, it'll show up on the CN website before the regular airings begin.
UK airings thus far...
Power Outage Nov 26
Follow that Space Cab
Nuclear Family Values
Zombie King
Galaxy Jest
Time Share
I missed it as well. Hopefully, it'll show up on the CN website before the regular airings begin.
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According to Wikipedia, tonight's premiere consisted of the segments "Classic Rock," "Power Outage," "Night of the Bat," and "Abate and Switch." So the UK has shown the second part without the rest.
