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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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And some of his sock puppets are still going at it

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Reece is a buffoon and sycophant.
 
Alec Peters: I took donor money because I deserve a salary and lavish perks because Axanar is my full time job. Wait a minute. I didn't take donor money and to prove it I will claim I payed back the money I now claim I never took.

#LFIMhonestylogicfail

:wtf:
 
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I have a quick question about the GoFundMe campaign; One of the talking points when it went up was about how this would be separate/private/independent from Mr Peters and from Axanar , to possibly insulate the money from any legal judgement. Mr Lane made a point of saying he had not even discussed the campaign with Mr Peters.
Now that it is offical that Mr Lane works for Axanar, how would this campaign be any different then the previous iterations ?
- It purpose was to cover the business expenses of the Axanar company
- It was created by an employee of the business

Is there a legal way that Mr Lane could still claim that the money was raised through a personal side project , created on the basis of his fan love of the project, Not created as part of his job ?
Could he claim , technically as a writer his job description has nothing about fund raising in it? Adding the fact that he did not seek approval from his boss before proceeding , would that be enough ?

Thanks heaps to @jespah and @carlosp for all the work you put into this, I try to keep up with what you write, its been an interesting education in copy write law .
I read what Mr Lane writes as well just to see a different point of view, I was disappointed when I found out he worked for Axanar; I never bothered to look into it so its on me too, still I feel like that fact is worth adding to every article he writes just to keep it in perspective. I notice and appreciate that @carlosp never forgets to mention that he was a writer for New Voyages , even though it has no bearing on the article.

Take Care
 
Just wanted to take a moment again to say thanks to all of you. Sounds like I'm about the get the boot so I'll save the mods the trouble and just scramble my password after this post and will not be back. Ive cause enough trouble here.

Take care, all of you.
No, just NO! That feels just wrong!
Don't leave us ..........
Exactly. Thanks, @jespah
It's for the best, really.
Don't believe that any second!
 
@Karzak has developed good relationships outside and inside of TBBS, but his past behavior in other sub-fora has crossed many a line. I personally feel he may be incapable of suppressing those instincts while posting here, so in his case discretion is the better part of valor. I believe the man behind the name still occasionally comments on the public CBS/P FB group, so there is still potential for him to weigh in on the discussion.
 
Just wanted to take a moment again to say thanks to all of you. Sounds like I'm about the get the boot so I'll save the mods the trouble and just scramble my password after this post and will not be back. Ive cause enough trouble here.

Take care, all of you.
Muscle up there young man, those people don't mean jack.
 
Just wanted to take a moment again to say thanks to all of you. Sounds like I'm about the get the boot so I'll save the mods the trouble and just scramble my password after this post and will not be back. Ive cause enough trouble here.

Take care, all of you.
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Alec keeps saying that "the financials" prove that he hasn't spent the donors' money on himself. What exactly is he talking about? The BS financial report from last year that was about as complete and credible that silly-ass cupcake story? Or some other documents that presumably haven't been released to the public yet? I know he's lying, I just wonder if he's being smart enough to base his lie on a document everybody hasn't seen yet.
 
Alec keeps saying that "the financials" prove that he hasn't spent the donors' money on himself. What exactly is he talking about? The BS financial report from last year that was about as complete and credible that silly-ass cupcake story? Or some other documents that presumably haven't been released to the public yet? I know he's lying, I just wonder if he's being smart enough to base his lie on a document everybody hasn't seen yet.
"The financials" are one of those go to verbal tics he has adopted.
Others include:

Let me be clear
Detractors
Independent
Tens of thousands of donors
Destroy my fanhood
 
Alec keeps saying that "the financials" prove that he hasn't spent the donors' money on himself. What exactly is he talking about? The BS financial report from last year that was about as complete and credible that silly-ass cupcake story? Or some other documents that presumably haven't been released to the public yet? I know he's lying, I just wonder if he's being smart enough to base his lie on a document everybody hasn't seen yet.
He's referring to financial statements that one week had been "reviewed by an accountant," but the following week in statements to the court were only "financial notes that have not been reviewed by an accountant."

At any rate he submitted two versions of the financials to the plaintiffs during discovery. What's contained in them is only known as a result of the unredacted exhibits submitted by his own attorneys to support their motion for summary judgment.
 
At great cost I have obtained footage of the exact moment Alec and Erin submitted the financial records of Axanar to Loeb & Loeb

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Sorry. I neglected to post a link last night to the latest AxaMonitor article, fact-checking Peters' official statement about finances and the lawsuit.

Peters' Personal Spending Spurs Axanar Accounting
Inappropriate spending alleged by plaintiffs CBS and Paramount Pictures in their copyright lawsuit against Alec Peters led the producer to issue a statement November 18, 2016, denying he misspent money donated by Star Trek fans to produce his feature film, Axanar. We fact-check the statement. Read more »
 
Didn't they say something about having the money in escrow? Or was that disproven?

Depending on how things were set up, having the money in escrow might mean they can't touch it. But then, AFAIK we don't know the details of the supposed escrow account, why it was created, etc...

There is no evidence that I've yet heard about that supports or disproves that.
-person quoted as 'saying' [there is one], Rand Johnson (FB)
-no evidence that I've come across that supports or disproves [that]

-Just data to keep track of.
'Just data to keep track of' UPDATE:
I had forgotten AxaMonitor reporting of PR person's hypothetical

Make sense to me. And why would I, the public (even though previous donor), really be entitled to this information anyway... at this point in the case. Certainly not my right to know in any technical sense. Would end my speculations on it for sure, would comfort the supporter/donors who may feel angst about it. Might comfort future donors who might be considering donating. Nobody's right as far as my own limited understanding goes.

Though remembering this 'hypothetical' has me thinking about it again.

If I'm remembering correctly, the defendant actually said to Mr. McIntosh at the time of the 2% offer 'There's no cash available right now.'

Which for sure could go several ways; there is no cash at all, the funds are there but until further notice are not going to be used for anything, and also all the funds are in an escrow account that currently has no access for spending.

So, hypothetically as per PR guy, there could be $200K in an escrow account:
Okay. Where is it?

Which has me thinking about the Georgia attorney, his... um, specialty with shell corporations, his 17 year connection with the defendant who demonstrates a proclivity for multiple incorporating and name changing since his business back in 2004. The traced 'newest' one to that attorney this year. As well as the defendant's notable interest in sort of secrecy [the investor group, the prop auction mailing business, where's the money, etc]

So maybe there is an escrow account and maybe the money's there.

And, for this hypothetical continuing with the PR person's,... where is 'there'? And how much is in 'there'?

Which has me thinking about the Court documents that, as far as I've found out, makes no mention of a balance in a Production Bank Account, an empty bank account, a separate escrow account.
 
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