Who is going to win this election in November?

[Gov Kodos]

Nasty evil Republicans aren't coming to get anybody. But if they do, you can all come hide in my basement.

Great, got a cool stable temperature down there, cause I'd like to take up making home made beer again.

 

[urbandefault]

Great, got a cool stable temperature down there, cause I'd like to take up making home made beer again.

Your room is reserved!

 

[BillJ]

Ok, sans the misleading headliney bullet pointy parts:

12. “We support the public display of the Ten Commandments as a reflection of our history and our country’s Judeo-Christian heritage and further affirm the rights of religious students to engage in voluntary prayer at public school events and to have equal access to school facilities.”
43. “A good understanding of the Bible being indispensable for the development of an educated citizenry, we encourage state legislatures to offer the Bible in a literature curriculum as an elective in America’s high schools.”

Note the words "voluntary" and "elective," and the phrase "equal access." Where does it say "theocracy" or "national religion"?

Maybe read the entire platform. I know it's long. https://prod-static-ngop-pbl.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

This stuff is all position, telling the public what the party stands for. It's not legislation. But everyone here knows that. Any new law still has to go through the process.

Nasty evil Republicans aren't coming to get anybody. But if they do, you can all come hide in my basement.

I think the concern is not how is starts, but where it may end up going.

 

[fonzob1]

His point was not about questioning the legality of the Electoral College or the outcome of the election, he's simply saying that a majority of eligible voters who have voted in the last six out of seven US Presidential elections (1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012, and 2016) have voted Democrat, with 2004 being the only time the Republicans won a majority, and that was by a miniscule margin with an incumbent presidential advantage.

http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/popular-vote/

However, Bill Clinton got into office in 1992 with only 43 percent of the popular vote. He did not win with a majority of the people who voted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992

 

[BillJ]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/50-...-could-end-up-on-trumps-desk/comments/#disqus

Just wow.... Some of the shit on that list. Just wow

So the Republicans want to make the USA into a theocracy...... I mean a national religion? Geez, what happened to freedom of religion?

It is a sobering view of America as reimagined by Republicans. I need a drink.

 

[urbandefault]

I think the concern is not how is starts, but where it may end up going.

"Our ranks include Americans from every faith and tradition, and we respect the right of each American to follow his or her deeply held beliefs." - 2016 GOP Platform

Not to mention the 1st Amendment: "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof."

 

[BillJ]

"Our ranks include Americans from every faith and tradition, and we respect the right of each American to follow his or her deeply held beliefs." - 2016 GOP Platform

Not to mention the 1st Amendment: "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof."

You can make things very uncomfortable for those who worship differently than than the majority. How long before the House Unamerican Activities committee uses being Muslim or being gay as a reason to investigate people's loyalty to America? Have we forgotten the 1950's that quickly?

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

 

[urbandefault]

You can make things very uncomfortable for those who worship differently than than the majority. How long before the House Unamerican Activities committee uses being Muslim as a reason to investigate people's loyalty to America? Have we forgotten the 1950's that quickly?

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

Wait, does that exist? Or was it just an old politician doing the talking head thing months ago?

I can't waste time worrying about things that might (are not likely to ever) happen. There are real things in the world to worry about. Like, when am I gonna get some of that @Gov Kodos homemade brew?

 

[BillJ]

I can't waste time worrying about things that might (are not likely to ever) happen.

Wow. You might think and feel differently if you were one of the many American minorities that are likely to be affected by it.

 

[urbandefault]

Wow. You might think and feel differently if you were one of the many American minorities that are likely to be affected by it.

By a committee that doesn't exist?

 

[BillJ]

By a committee that doesn't exist?

Read that list of what they want to accomplish and tell me that it is in any way welcoming of minorities, non-Christians or the poor?

It is a love letter to white "Christians".

 

[Captain Crow]

By a committee that doesn't exist?

Gingrich wants to reinstate it.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Newt Gingrich wants new House Un-American Activities Committee

By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Updated 6:37 PM ET, Tue June 14, 2016

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is calling for the creation of a new House Committee on Un-American Activities, invoking the infamous "Red Scare"-era congressional body as a blueprint for weeding out American ISIS adherents and sympathizers.

"We originally created the House Un-American Activities Committee to go after Nazis," he said during an appearance on "Fox and Friends" this week. "We passed several laws in 1938 and 1939 to go after Nazis and we made it illegal to help the Nazis. We're going to presently have to go take the similar steps here."
Gingrich, a vocal supporter of Donald Trump, has been touted as a potential running mate for the presumptive Republican nominee.

His comments on Monday echoed Trump's, as the billionaire businessman suggested "Muslim communities" should be held to greater account for the actions of their neighbors.

"They know what is going on," Trump said during a speech Monday in New Hampshire. "They know that (the Orlando killer) was bad. They knew the people in San Bernardino were bad. But you know what, they didn't turn them in, and we had death and destruction."

The House Un-American Activities Committee was founded on the eve of World War II but gained greater notoriety a decade later as it launched a series of investigations into alleged communist elements inside the U.S. government and other aspects of U.S. society.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/polit...e-un-american-activities-committee/index.html

Wow! Someone watched The Drumhead and must have thought "that's a great idea! We totally should be doing that"!

 

[{ Emilia }]

Oh please.

Stop pretending it's just about the woman. It takes both a man and woman to have sex and both do it knowing that a child could be the result of that action. There are plenty of precautions available to both if they arent ready to have kids.

Incidentally the anti-choice movement is largely the same people who don't want teenagers to know about those precautions and keeps pushing "abstinence only" sex education which tends not to work at all.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Legalizing gay marriage, advocating crossgenderism, supporting Abortion, among other gross sins.

Nobody is forcing Christians to have a gay wedding, an abortion or have sex reassignment surgery.

These laws just make sure Christians can't force everybody else to live the same way they live.

It's called freedom.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Nasty evil Republicans aren't coming to get anybody. But if they do, you can all come hide in my basement.

Can I bring tea and scones?

 

[ichab]

Ok, sans the misleading headliney bullet pointy parts:

12. “We support the public display of the Ten Commandments as a reflection of our history and our country’s Judeo-Christian heritage and further affirm the rights of religious students to engage in voluntary prayer at public school events and to have equal access to school facilities.”
43. “A good understanding of the Bible being indispensable for the development of an educated citizenry, we encourage state legislatures to offer the Bible in a literature curriculum as an elective in America’s high schools.”

Note the words "voluntary" and "elective," and the phrase "equal access." Where does it say "theocracy" or "national religion"?

Maybe read the entire platform. I know it's long. https://prod-static-ngop-pbl.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

This stuff is all position, telling the public what the party stands for. It's not legislation. But everyone here knows that. Any new law still has to go through the process.

Nasty evil Republicans aren't coming to get anybody. But if they do, you can all come hide in my basement.

Right? First they feared Trumpers reaction to the election WHEN Hillary won (They were just SO sure that people with guns would go on the warpath) and now that they havent they're going nuts because they think Trump is going to come get them or something. And this is the same people that called the tea party crazy

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[ichab]

Not surprisingly, the Clinton camp is accepting zero blame for their failed strategy..

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-aides-loss-blame-231215

 

[urbandefault]

Read that list of what they want to accomplish and tell me that it is in any way welcoming of minorities, non-Christians or the poor?

It is a love letter to white "Christians".

I did read it. The sentences at the beginning of each point did not accurately reflect the quotes that followed. I also read the entire platform.

Gingrich wants to reinstate it.

Gingrich holds no public office, therefore he has no power. Anything that happens in the House is up to the sitting House, not a former Speaker nearly 20 years gone.

Can I bring tea and scones?

Only if you bring enough for the entire group.

 

[STR]

Not surprisingly, the Clinton camp is accepting zero blame for their failed strategy..

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-aides-loss-blame-231215

The whole Hillary group are lousy campaigners. They've proven this on two non consecutive occaisions. Let there be no doubt about it, and no excuse made for it.

By the same token, responsibility for this doesn't lay entirely at their feet. The voters should have had enough decency to soundly reject the alternative anyway because being a charmless hack with lousy IT people is less of a sin than...well...every thing that came out during the campaign about the soon-to-be president.

The Clinton camp had the polling. They had cable news. They could see that Trump was being normalized by media and the public into something of a generic Republican. Evil was clearly acceptable. And they cruised along the whole way without trying a different tack.

So yeah, they suck. The democrats that stood by, or worse, cleared the way for her ascent, abdicated their responsibilities. But that doesn't absolve the voters of what they signed on for. Point is, it's all true and everyone sucks.