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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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Awful. Very disappointing that basically all the Republican voters stuck with Trump, just gave him a pass and therefore power. Early on I suspected white women would stick with the Republican nominee but I am surprised and appalled that they would still do so when he's not only a womanizer but was actually dismissive of sexual consent.
I suspected that in some minority groups that typically favor Democrats turnout would be lower, and it sucks to be right in that, but I didn't expect it would be so bad with her gaining even much of less the percentages of the groups than Obama did.
We can still hope that enough of Congress will oppose or moderate a lot of Trump's proposals but things sure look bad in a lot of ways.
 
Keeping in mind this board's focus and trying to put a smilie on what I feel is a very distressing turn:

It's almost like after eight years of Mr. Spock as President we pined for Kirk then settled for Zapp Brannigan.
Nah you got Khan Noonian Singh
 
Awful. Very disappointing that basically all the Republican voters stuck with Trump, just gave him a pass and therefore power. Early on I suspected white women would stick with the Republican nominee but I am surprised and appalled that they would still do so when he's not only a womanizer but was actually dismissive of sexual consent.
I suspected that in some minority groups that typically favor Democrats turnout would be lower, and it sucks to be right in that, but I didn't expect it would be so bad with her gaining even much of less the percentages of the groups than Obama did.
We can still hope that enough of Congress will oppose or moderate a lot of Trump's proposals but things sure look bad in a lot of ways.
I agree that Trump never should have won the primary election. That shocked me
 
Smug liberals and identity politics caused Brexit.

Smug liberals and identity politics caused Trump.

Will the left change? Only time will tell.


But the answer is no.

Remain was supported by liberals and conservative. We have a Conservative government that supported Remain.
The politics of clear 'left wing and right wing' are old hat and not relevant.
Will the right wing still behave as if they are living in the McCarthy era? Probably.
 
- Rejection of rationality.

- Rejection of quality media and inability to tell real media from conspiracy news on FB

- the working class not caring about all those socially progressive policies us liberals are promoting.

- the liberal elite taking working class votes for granted but completely ignoring the socially conservative attitudes in that group.

- Xenophobia and a huge backlash against all the change progressives and liberals have brought to our countries in the past decade. Many people don't want society to change even more, we moved ahead but forgot about them.

- Backlash against the big public discourse about gender equality.

I have no solution for this.

Eight years of pure blockade by the GOP in Congress, and what do they get? A racist, misogynistic fascist with low IQ and attention span gets elected to the presidency, and a completely GOP-controlled Congress.
 
^Perhaps America deserves Mr Trump. Its not the first time working class people vote against their own interest. If they really believe Mr Trump is in power to help them, they are in for a big surprise. The happiest countries in the world with the highest standard of living are Scandinavian and they not follow the US model. What does that say?
The problem is some Americans truely believe in the American dream....they need to wake up and stop dreaming.
 
Smug liberals and identity politics caused Brexit.

Smug liberals and identity politics caused Trump.

Will the left change? Only time will tell.


But the answer is no.

Racists, bigots and morons incapable of seeing through the outrageous lies of Johnson and Farage caused Brexit.

It's pretty similar with Trump.
 
^Perhaps America deserves Mr Trump. Its not the first time working class people vote against their own interest. If they really believe Mr Trump is in power to help them, they are in for a big surprise. The happiest countries in the world with the highest standard of living are Scandinavian and they not follow the US model. What does that say?
The problem is some Americans truely believe in the American dream....they need to wake up and stop dreaming.
America makes up 42% of the world economy but not nearly 42% of the world population. The American dream is no dream. So many people wouldn't be desperate to come here if it was.
 
America makes up 42% of the world economy but not nearly 42% of the world population. The American dream is no dream. So many people wouldn't be desperate to come here if it was.
My issue is the American dream is just that a dream.
 
America makes up 42% of the world economy but not nearly 42% of the world population. The American dream is no dream. So many people wouldn't be desperate to come here if it was.

Great. Statistics. 25% of all people in prisons worldwide are in US prisons.
 
America makes up 42% of the world economy but not nearly 42% of the world population. The American dream is no dream. So many people wouldn't be desperate to come here if it was.

Both social mobility and the Gini coefficient look pretty bad in the US compared to many other Western countries.

The fact that many people still buy it, doesn't mean there's a basis for it in reality.
 
Both social mobility and the Gini coefficient look pretty bad in the US compared to many other Western countries.
The fact that many people still buy it, doesn't mean there's a basis for it in reality.
Well, maybe Trump will improve quality of life for the average American. You never know.
 
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