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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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Of course not.

This is stochastic terrorism. You repeat incendiary things over and over and over, suggesting there is a grave injustice happening, and while you don't explicitly tell the people listening to you to do something about it, the implication is that they can't take this lying down. Somebody needs to do something. And when somebody does, well, you can just disavow them--you never said they should take up arms! You're not responsible!

It's a way to incite people without rising to the legal definition of incitement.


Which makes things even more scary if something does happen.

Now what person would wear a t-shirt that says "fuck your feelings Trump that bitch"
 
There are multiple protections, in the United States, against dictatorship, term limits is just one of them. These obstacles to dictatorship are overcome in different ways and at different times.

American elections ARE term limits. Good politicians should not be thrown out just because of an arbitrary number. Along with the three branches of government you will never have to worry about a dictatorship in this country.
 
American elections ARE term limits. Good politicians should not be thrown out just because of an arbitrary number. Along with the three branches of government you will never have to worry about a dictatorship in this country.

All I am saying is that term limits are a protection against dictatorship, which they are. Just because there are other protections, doesnt mean that term limits arent a protection against it.

I am not arguing to keep them or to get rid of them.

Also, I think its very short sighted and simplistic of you to declare that we dont have to worry about dictatorship in the USA especially when politicans are, today, exploiting the system for their own ends with things like unlimited donations.
Yes, a lot of it is all within the rules. But the rules can be changed, manipulated, ignored and broken. Add time to this toxic mixture and you would be surprised how close dictatorship can be.
Not all dictatorships begin with a bang. Many dictators rise to power with a relatively peaceful transition of power.
 
All I am saying is that term limits are a protection against dictatorship, which they are. Just because there are other protections, doesnt mean that term limits arent a protection against it.

I am not arguing to keep them or to get rid of them.

Also, I think its very short sighted and simplistic of you to declare that we dont have to worry about dictatorship in the USA especially when politicans are, today, exploiting the system for their own ends with things like unlimited donations.
Yes, a lot of it is all within the rules. But the rules can be changed, manipulated, ignored and broken. Add time to this toxic mixture and you would be surprised how close dictatorship can be.
Not all dictatorships begin with a bang. Many dictators rise to power with a relatively peaceful transition of power.

True dictators can rise to power within the rules, the problem is once they are in power they change the rules.
 
Also, I think its very short sighted and simplistic of you to declare that we dont have to worry about dictatorship in the USA especially when politicans are, today, exploiting the system for their own ends with things like unlimited donations.
That's not a dictatorship.
 
Just in general what do people think of this election?

Has this particular one polarized people more then any other previous election?
 
Just in general what do people think of this election?

Has this particular one polarized people more then any other previous election?

I have noticed that people are really hostile to you if you dont support Hillary Clinton.
Its really sad to see so many liberals come to the defence of a lesser evil like that.
 
Honestly, if I hadn't voted for Clinton I would've just left the Presidential ticket blank. Stein and Johnson are thoroughly laughable and Trump is... Trump.

At least Clinton a) can win and b) is likely to do at least some major things I will agree with. I worry about her hawkishness, which I imagine is the main concern other leftists have with her.
 
Just in general what do people think of this election?

Has this particular one polarized people more then any other previous election?

I think it's a particularly unpleasant one as, though Hillary Clinton is primarily a centrist on most issues, both Clinton and Trump and their supporters tend to demonize people and groups that aren't supporting them and be very averse to admit that they have flaws or the opponents have legitimate concerns.
On the other hand, the candidates tend to not have consistent positions which also makes discussion about them particularly difficult.
 
This reminds me of my favorite part of the election. Senator Graham said the choice between Trump and Cruz was like choosing whether to be shot or poisoned. He then proceeded to endorse Cruz. His justification was that you might find an antidote to poison but not to a bullet in the head.
 
Moore puts almost too much conviction in this text:
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OK.... thats what I basically just said?

I believe you said one of the protections against dictarshipism in the US ins term limits. I'm saying term limits don't protect against dictators. As once they are in office they simply change the law. i.e the law around term limits
 
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