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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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I know the narrative says that Pence won the debate, but Clinton will certainly win the post-debate debate. Check out this new ad from her campaign team that's all thanks to Kaine's sacrifice.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783645247247114240

I'm not sure a million Picard facepalms could cover that minute-and-a-half. :guffaw:

I seriously don't know how anyone could actually vote for Trump. Anyone that does, has to be mentally deficient in some way.

Either Mike Pence was lying through his teeth, or totally incompetent.
 
I'm not sure a million Picard facepalms could cover that minute-and-a-half. :guffaw:

I seriously don't know how anyone could actually vote for Trump. Anyone that does, has to be mentally deficient in some way.

Either Mike Pence was lying through his teeth, or totally incompetent.
The live debates are a gamble. Tell a lie, or a half-lie, and you're gambling whether the audience knows or cares that you're lying. Many people are too lazy to fact-check. Many simply don't believe fact-checkers. So to many, Tim Kaine looked like the attack dog and Mike Pence looked intelligent and strong in the face of criticism.

Unless that Hillary ad with the side-by-side comparisons goes on TV and is shown to 80 million people, it won't make a difference to the people who were swayed by how "strong" Pence "looked."
 
These aren't really debates anyway. They're nothing but sound byte stump speeches with lots of finger pointing and a few talking point questions thrown in so the moderator looks like he's done his homework. I think political "debates" should be sposored by the WWE and moderated by Vince McMahon.
 
Has anyone seen this little gem?
Snippet from crowd interviews at a Trump rally.


https://twitter.com/GadiNBC/status/783844268053975040

I just can't believe people actually think stuff like that is fact.

May I remind you that not that long ago B.O.B. claimed the earth was flat, and attacked Neil deGrasse Tyson for refuting that "theory".

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about th'universe!" and all that.
 
Has anyone seen this little gem?
Snippet from crowd interviews at a Trump rally.


https://twitter.com/GadiNBC/status/783844268053975040

I just can't believe people actually think stuff like that is fact.
The conspiracy angle is common with people who go against the grain of society. I have no clue why they love to refute established facts, and especially love to lay into the Holocaust specifically, but whatever. It's just another example of a worldwide conspiracy perpetrated by the Jews to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. Of course.

Don't these people realize that this sort of crap is straight out of the Nazi Party handbook? Don't they realize that Rudolph Hess was spewing this same sort of nonsensical, paranoid crap at the Nuremburg Trials? They want to "Make America Great Again" by electing a Hitleresque, bloviating asshole like Trump, and they trade in conspiracy theories that have nothing to do with making America great.

Trying to play down the Holocaust, playing down the war crimes of the Nazi regime, which millions of people died fighting to end....it makes no sense, and it angers me. I watch that video, and I literally want to punch that guy in the face for being so incandescently stupid.

People like that need to be forced to watch the gas chamber scene of "War and Remembrance." It is about 10 times worse and harder to watch than the one depicted in Schindler's List. Then they need to talk to a Holocaust survivor. And then they need to talk with Niklas Frank, the son of the Nazi governor of occupied Poland, who repudiates what his father and the regime did.

Idiots like this, that have the beliefs they do, have no clue about why WW2 was even fought. And they have no understanding of how to "make America great again."

Deplorables.
 
Unfortunately, there have been Holocaust deniers ever since WWII, and the modern Holocaust denial movement was all too strong this century even before the current election cycle. Trump has ascended on a wave of bigotry, so it's no surprise he'd attract that species of bigot. And anyway, to whom else would American Holocaust deniers flock to today than Trump for a chance at demarginalization?
 
The part about voting even if you're dying is actually kind of funny. Or at least it would be if I were sure that he meant it to be funny.
 
Trump is not my guy, never has been. He's in this race to make himself richer and more powerful, and has never denied that he is anything but what you see. But don't kid yourselves, The Clintons have never done anything that doesn't directly benefit The Clintons. There are no altruistic motives to be found anywhere on either side of this ballot.
 
HA! Apparently Donald Trump thinks he can out-grope my husband. My husband invented the pussy grab.

HA!
 
But don't kid yourselves, The Clintons have never done anything that doesn't directly benefit The Clintons. There are no altruistic motives to be found anywhere on either side of this ballot.
So? How is that any different than 99% of politicians after they've been in politics a few years?

Hillary Clinton is at least a competent leader and intelligent stateswoman. I don't give two flying flips if she's a career politician. I've always known that. I think she's boring, she's uninspiring, she's just there.

But she's a better choice than ANYONE on the Republican side at this point in time. The only one that acts like they have a brain in their head at all is Rand Paul. But even he only acts like it half the time. It's a cesspool of idiocy on the Right these days.
 
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