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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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So it's definitely the same guy who did all the pornos?
I appreciate the time and effort that goes into this , it was an interesting read for certain.
I also want to thank Carlos for his site, great way to catch up on what is going on.
I was totally un familiar with Fan films in general , I knew they existed but hadn't really seen any, before I attended the 50th anniversary convention this year. I heard or saw something that got me interested; since then I have dived right in, there are some great fan films to watch ! This Axanar situation is educational if nothing else.
I really wonder why Diana 1.0 hasn't bailed yet.........
http://www.axanarproductions.com/to-carly-simon-and-heinz-ketchup/
http://www.axanarproductions.com/to-carly-simon-and-heinz-ketchup/
Hey, thanks @Kytee and @OtherGene and all.
Today's filings haven't come down yet - probably will be after business hours here on the East Coast. Because there's nothing my husband wants to hear more, when we're home alone together, than, "Honey, I have more Axanar chazerai to read."
Today's filings haven't come down yet - probably will be after business hours here on the East Coast. Because there's nothing my husband wants to hear more, when we're home alone together, than, "Honey, I have more Axanar chazerai to read."
And the writers, directors, costumers, editors, they didn't?
Oh. Ok. So, then why does the actor get to decide whether or not the character--that as you admit--others contributed to the success--gets to appear in a fan film? Especially, when that actor is being paid to be in it?
1. profit has nothing to do with copyright violation
2. People are being paid to work on these fan films, so they are personally profiting. Those actors you were talking about? They were paid to be there.
How would you feel if I came into your house--uninvited--and took something I thought you didn't care about. Maybe you were going to play with that old xbox. Maybe you were going to sell it. But, I thought, you didn't really care about it anymore. Would that be ok to you?
For the most part, CBS/Paramount have been incredibly gracious with fan films--don't let someone lie to you. This is the first law suit. Why? Because Peters raised over a MILLION dollars on the back of something he had no rights to. He raised over a million dollars to pay himself and to build a studio for FUTURE profit. He continues to sell Star Trek merchandise...oh, sorry, it's in the "donation" store.
This is why CBS/Paramount is putting an end to this.
That said, CBS/Paramount SHOULD dictate how their material will be used by fans. They are protecting their IP. Let me ask you a question: if you loan someone your car, you care how they treat it, yes? And that's when you are actually giving explicit permission.
It is absolutely 100% the same guy. He appears onscreen in some of his adult work (non-sex roles).
Neil
A ballsy move on his part.
Hey, thanks @Kytee and @OtherGene and all.
Today's filings haven't come down yet - probably will be after business hours here on the East Coast. Because there's nothing my husband wants to hear more, when we're home alone together, than, "Honey, I have more Axanar chazerai to read."
Re your offer in the analysis:
Grace Lee Whitney's salary was paid in Spockified Canadian fivers
That William Shatner created while having beer
With David Gerrold, who immortalized the tribble species
That fringed Garth of Izar's cloak
Which signified he is master of the universe
Whom Gods Destroy on Axanar
At 10 PM
With Twinkies
Jesus. Reading that was cringeworthy....
They're just patches, not a major achievement.
It's huge that after, what, 18 months they have have managed to stuff some envelopes?(It’s so exciting I may die. Seriously, folks… this is BIG. HUGE. And, undeniably AWESOME.
So all they have needed to do all this time was print addresses on envelopes? Seriously? And in all that time they couldn't print out an up to date letter and replace the one already in there? Jesus wept. This is so amateurish it's unreal.
In terms of fan films being indistinguishable from the real thing, this has already happened at least once publicly to my knowledge. Last year, the morning news show on our Fox affiliate here in Los Angeles ran a short piece about the production of Beyond before it even had a title, I believe. The piece contained of clip of what the news production team presumed was Star Trek, appropriately credited to CBS/Paramount, but for one big problem. The clip was from Renegades.
Well, there you go. That's why it's not just about literal profit making.
CNN did the same thing during one of their stories about Discovery. I think it actually happened fairly soon after the other one.
It is ironic then that in his other non-adult jobs he seems only capable of dicking around instead of doing actual research instead of cocking up the facts. I guess we might say he's a missionary for doggy-style intellectualism.
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As far as a news station showing a fan film as if it was a studio production, doesn't exactly speak to a high level reproduction of original content. It speaks to a lazy news production team grabbing something that says "Star Trek" on it from the internet and then using it without knowing the difference. It could be one of the reasons why the use of "Star Trek" is no longer allowed in the title of a Star trek fan film.
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