Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2
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CBR has posted some new pics from the premiere and the second episode, The Last Children of Krypton, and a new Taking Off teaser.
I am very curious to see what Clark's relationships with James and J'Onn will be like.
I am very curious to see what Clark's relationships with James and J'Onn will be like.
It will be interesting to see how much info and insights to his past with both we learn.
Jimmy knows Clark is Superman. Which rarely has happened in the comics. I am curious how long before Jimmy found out or was told.
A couple times last year J'Onn alluded to his past history with Superman. In the flashbacks of what happened to the real Hank Henshaw, he said that Superman considered J'Onn the most powerful being on Earth. Also when J'Onn revealed himself to Alex he said only one other person knew his secret. He never directly said who that was but in a later episode he said Superman enjoyed teasing him that his telepathy did not work on Kryptonians. Which implies Clark would have known more about what happened the night of Jeremiah Danvers supposed death than Alex or Kara and never told them anything before J'Onn did.
Jimmy knows Clark is Superman. Which rarely has happened in the comics. I am curious how long before Jimmy found out or was told.
A couple times last year J'Onn alluded to his past history with Superman. In the flashbacks of what happened to the real Hank Henshaw, he said that Superman considered J'Onn the most powerful being on Earth. Also when J'Onn revealed himself to Alex he said only one other person knew his secret. He never directly said who that was but in a later episode he said Superman enjoyed teasing him that his telepathy did not work on Kryptonians. Which implies Clark would have known more about what happened the night of Jeremiah Danvers supposed death than Alex or Kara and never told them anything before J'Onn did.
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Buuuuut... Jimmy also said that Superman would not work with ARGUS/Cadmus because they are bad.
That's not a good thing. If that actually happens during next season's crossover, that means I need to suffer through possibly 80 or so minutes of Felicty and Supergirl stories so I don't miss a minute or two of stuff relevant to Flash and Legends of Tomorrow during their crossover parts. Really, it is worse then just no being involved in the shows normal plot, since it means the episode can't be cleanly skipped. That's probably why they'd do it, too. Greg Berlanti will make everyone watch Felicity and Supergirl in something if its the last thing he does.
Its extremely irritating and insulting as a fan/viewer to have CW's junk shoved on me. I don't like Felicity so I don't watch Felicity, and I hate Cat Grant and Supergirl's writers/producers so I don't watch Supergirl. CW shouldn't make it harder for people to avoid shows they don't like. That just makes people resentful. At least, it does for me. I don't want to even think about Supergirl and Felicity, they're terrible and I'd prefer to just ignore them. CW just won't let that happen, though. Its already got me to watch the first two episodes of Supergirl just because I want to see a Superman who isn't suffering from delusions, severe depression and a complete lack of morality. That's a pretty impressive feat seeing as I couldn't stomach Supergirl past episode 10 or so (whenever that atrocious Red Kyrptonite episode was). Now, its just trying to piss me off.
Wow Kirk55555, you sound about as angsty as an episode of Arrow or Supergirl right now. 
I really doubt you'll be that lost if you stick to watching just Flash and Legends. I hadn't watched any of Arrow before seeing the crossovers with Flash that first season, and had no problem keeping up. And anything really relevant and important that the audience needs to know will always be covered in the "previously on" part at the beginning.
I really doubt you'll be that lost if you stick to watching just Flash and Legends. I hadn't watched any of Arrow before seeing the crossovers with Flash that first season, and had no problem keeping up. And anything really relevant and important that the audience needs to know will always be covered in the "previously on" part at the beginning.
Wow Kirk55555, you sound about as angsty as an episode of Arrow or Supergirl right now.
I really doubt you'll be that lost if you stick to watching just Flash and Legends. I hadn't watched any of Arrow before seeing the crossovers with Flash that first season, and had no problem keeping up. And anything really relevant and important that the audience needs to know will always be covered in the "previously on" part at the beginning.
Last year's Flash/Arrow crossover was the first episode of Arrow I ever watched. I didn't really know what was happening on the Arrow side, except I could follow the story and I thought Falicity was being held down by the main character. Apparently, there's many other fans who don't like that relationship. Personally, I would love to see Falicity on Supergirl, even though I'm not sure how that would work. Winn isn't that bad, but he's no Falicity (from what I've seen on Flash) or Cisco.
Damn.. Supergirl will be on HBO Nordic in Finland. And LoT was on Netflix last year, who knows where it will end up this year. And no idea if Arrow and Flash will be anywhere in the streaming services. Apparently the Netflix/CW-deal only applies to the USA-market, and not global like I hoped. So wont be getting all the Arrowverse-series in the same place.
Apparently Superman's greatest power is his mighty 5 o'clock shadow which the makeup department seems unable to hide.
Other than that... and the weird cape clasps... he looks great.
Other than that... and the weird cape clasps... he looks great.
That doesn't make sense mathematically. Moving to the CW means they have $3 million per episode less coming in per episode (assuming the CW doesn't pay any licensing fee, but most likely, for bookkeeping reasons they probably pay something).
Looks like she takes off like a Super Saiyan with all that surrounding ground rising up as she prepares.....
Well, I'm not sure if it's due to the license fees or what. Maybe it's because they get tax credits in Vancouver that they didn't get in LA. All I know is that I read somewhere that the reduction in the expenses that don't show up onscreen, the tax and business stuff, more than cancels out the overall reduction in budget, so they have more to spare for what does show up onscreen, the sets and action and VFX and the like. Or at least that they're able to do more with less. Although I can't seem to find where I read that.
We've never gotten any concrete figures on what Supergirl's Season 2 budget is, but I'd imagine that it's around the same as it was on CBS; they can just do more with it because it costs less to film in Vancouver than it does in L.A., so, yes, it does make mathematical sense that their budget is actually bigger, in the long run, on The CW than it was on CBS.
Wow Kirk55555, you sound about as angsty as an episode of Arrow or Supergirl right now.
I really doubt you'll be that lost if you stick to watching just Flash and Legends. I hadn't watched any of Arrow before seeing the crossovers with Flash that first season, and had no problem keeping up. And anything really relevant and important that the audience needs to know will always be covered in the "previously on" part at the beginning.
Nothing is as angsty as Arrow. It has sucked all the angst out of the world and given it human form, and named it Oliver. Then it took all the trashy relationship drama and gave it human form as Felicity.
As for the crossovers, I'd point out that Arrow was still watchable during its first crossover with Flash, so its a different situation. Also, its no so much following the story that's the big deal with the crossover. Its the fact that Felicity and Supergirl taking up time on Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. For people who don't like those shows, that's terrible. I'd only watch the crossover episodes of Flash/LoT to see any continuation of Flash/LoT story arcs, so I don't care about following the crossover's ongoing story. Its having to suffer through scenes of the worst character in superhero television history (Felicity) on Flash or Legends of Tomorrow that is the problem.
Supergirl I actually wouldn't mind appearing on Flash/LoT, because Supergirl the character is generally really good. Its her show's writers/producers/supporting cast (minus Martian Manhunter) who suck, not the character of Supergirl. I don't want her show in a crossover because her writers are atrocious and shouldn't be involved with a crossover, but the character herself would be fine for a crossover if its just her appearing on Flash/LoT without the story following up on her show. It comes down to this: No show should require you to watch an episode of another show to get its story, and no show should waste time on the characters of another show. At least, in this situation. If Supergirl and Arrow weren't the worst live action superhero shows, I'd have a different opinion for this situation. Bare minimum, its extremely unfair to fans of a show to make them watch parts or characters from shows they don't watch, especially when it takes the place of a normal episode of a show they like, and they have to watch the srossover episode to make sure they don't miss any relevant developments for the show they like.
Kirk5 really should just remember to put a disclaimer on every post discussing certain tv shows, that the following is merely his own personal opinion and is in no way representative of the actual quality of said show, not does it reflect general public opinion.
That said, I fail to see how Arrow showing up on Flash or Felicity on Legends or whatever would take away anything from the main characters. It's not like other episodes, don't have other gueststars pretty much every episode who take a bit of a spotlight.
The difference is, those gueststars don't have their own show usually.
So they do not get billed as special guest stars.
But they always take as much screen time away from the main characters as the story requires.
That said, I fail to see how Arrow showing up on Flash or Felicity on Legends or whatever would take away anything from the main characters. It's not like other episodes, don't have other gueststars pretty much every episode who take a bit of a spotlight.
The difference is, those gueststars don't have their own show usually.
So they do not get billed as special guest stars.
But they always take as much screen time away from the main characters as the story requires.
Regardless of what the actual budget is, I think the takeaway of the whole thing should be that the production values will likely remain basically the same as in Season 1.
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