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Multiple versions of the same story

JD

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So how many big events have been told multiple ways in Trek Lit and comics?
I know we've had at least 2 or 3 versions of the Kirk and Co.'s last mission of the 5YM, with two of them being Mission's End from IDW, and one of the issues in DC's first TOS series
I think there have been several different versions of Kirk's Kobayashi Maru, including one in the book Kobayashi Maru. There are at least two different resurrections for Data, one in the Cold Equations books and one in the Star Trek Online universe.
I think there have been at least a couple versions of what happened on Tarsus IV, with one in The Autobiography of James T. Kirk.
I haven't read either of them, but I'm pretty sure Federation: The First 150 Years presented a different Romulan War and early UFP from the Enterprise: Romulan War and Rise of The Federation books.
There have

What are the others?
 
Dang it @JD, I came up with this as an idea for a page on my site a month ago and havn't had time to write it up yet! You stole my idea! :p

Of course it would have been months or years before I got around to at the rate I get things done. :lol:
 
I know we've had at least 2 or 3 versions of the Kirk and Co.'s last mission of the 5YM, with two of them being Mission's End from IDW, and one of the issues in DC's first TOS series

I think there are at least 7 of those: The Lost Years, DC's "The Final Voyage" (Vol.1 Ann. 2), DC's "Star-Crossed, Part 3" (Vol. 2 #75), my version alluded to in Ex Machina and portrayed in Forgotten History, "Empty" in Strange New Worlds 10, the Crucible version, and IDW's Mission's End. I'd imagine The Autobiography of James T. Kirk probably offers an eighth.

I think there have been several different versions of Kirk's Kobayashi Maru, including one in the book Kobayashi Maru.

The one in DC's "Star-Crossed, Part 1" is the same as the one in Julia Ecklar's The Kobayashi Maru (not to be confused with Andy Mangels & Mike Martin's Kobayashi Maru), aside from a bit of dialogue streamlining. The only other distinct version I know of in Prime-Timeline tie-ins is "A Test of Character" in SNW VII (which is my favorite version, because it has Kirk just reprogram the simulation to give a fair chance of winning, rather than guaranteeing himself a win like in the Ecklar and Kelvinverse versions).



There are at least two different resurrections for Data, one in the Cold Equations books and one in the Star Trek Online universe.

Also "Final Flight" in SNW 08, in which it proves impossible to resurrect Data, and "The Very Model" in SNW 10, in which Data is resurrected relatively easily.

I think there have been at least a couple versions of what happened on Tarsus IV, with one in The Autobiography of James T. Kirk.

The Lost Year: A Flag Full of Stars flashes back to Kirk saving Riley on Tarsus IV in one book, and it also figures in the first chapter of the Shatnerverse novel Avenger and in Greg Cox's Enterprise Logs story "Though Hell Should Bar the Way."


I haven't read either of them, but I'm pretty sure Federation: The First 150 Years presented a different Romulan War and early UFP from the Enterprise: Romulan War and Rise of The Federation books.

Ohh, yeah. I read its Romulan War chapter carefully to see if there was anything in it that I could reference in ROTF, as a way of trying to reconcile them a bit, but there was essentially nothing. That book and the novels covered pretty much the same key events in completely irreconcilable ways. There were also different versions of the Romulan War in The Lives of Dax, the Rihannsu novels, and probably elsewhere.


What are the others?

Well, Pocket and DC did separate versions of Kirk's first mission as Enterprise captain about a year apart, DC's first annual in 1985 and Enterprise: The First Adventure in '86.
 
Yeah it's a neat idea.

I haven't read Rihannsu, but I think it portrayed the Sundering very different from Vulcan's Soul.

EDIT: Or rather Vulcan's Soul portrayed it different from Rihannsu as Rihannsu came first.
 
I think there are at least 7 of those: The Lost Years, DC's "The Final Voyage" (Vol.1 Ann. 2), DC's "Star-Crossed, Part 3" (Vol. 2 #75), my version alluded to in Ex Machina and portrayed in Forgotten History, "Empty" in Strange New Worlds 10, the Crucible version, and IDW's Mission's End. I'd imagine The Autobiography of James T. Kirk probably offers an eighth.
Damn, I didn't realize there had been that many last missions of the 5YM.
Well, Pocket and DC did separate versions of Kirk's first mission as Enterprise captain about a year apart, DC's first annual in 1985 and Enterprise: The First Adventure in '86.

Oops, missed that one. I had originally put the first and last missions of Kirk's 5YM, but decided to separate them, and I forgot to put the first back in.
Dang it @JD, I came up with this as an idea for a page on my site a month ago and havn't had time to write it up yet! You stole my idea! :p

Of course it would have been months or years before I got around to at the rate I get things done. :lol:
Hey, you know what they say about great minds.:beer:
 
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Deep Space 9. Destroyed in 2383 in Typhon Pact - Plagues of Night. Still active in 2410 in STO.

The Terran Rebellion. In the novels, they establish the peaceful Galactic Commonwealth. In STO, they restore the Terran Empire.

The mushroom-looking species from ENT - "Silent Enemy". In ENT - Rise of the Federation: A Choice of Futures, they have little understanding of humanoid lifeforms and did not understand that they were being threatening. They are also the offhandedly mentioned mute species of Gamma Vertis IV from TOS - "The Empath". In STO, they are called the Elachi and are servants of the Iconians.

The solanogen-based species from TNG - "Night Terrors". In TTN - Sight Unseen, they are revealed to be the sole intelligent species which is trying to escape a collapsing pocket dimension. In STO, they are a scientist caste of the Iconians who were accidentally exiled into subspace.

The neural parasites from TNG - "Conspiracy". The DS9 novels portray them as mutated Trill symbionts hailing from the extinct colony mentioned in TNG - "The Chase". Said parasites seek revenge on the Trill. In STO, the parasites are servants of the Iconians.

The Iconians. In the novels, they are a colossal species and exodused the Milky Way to go exploring places where their gateways could not reach. In STO, they are a human-sized semi-incorporeal species, and they return and try to conquer the galaxy.

Kal Dano, the unseen inventor of the Tox Uthat from TNG - "Captain's Holiday". In DTI - Watching the Clock, the Vorgons explain that he invented the Tox Uthat to destroy the Vorgon sun and civilization in the past. Subsequently, Daniels's colleague Jena Noi arrests Ajur and Boratus. In STO, he is a mixed-species non-villainous Federation scientist. Agent Daniels gives him a time travel pod, and he goes to save one of his ancestor species in the 25th century. After the Tholians steal the Tox Uthat, he and the player character retrieve it and hide it on 22nd century Risa. Dano is later killed and becomes the corpse from ENT - "Future Tense". The player character and a 29th century temporal agent retrieve his corpse. And it turns out that Picard tricked the Vorgons in "Captain's Holiday" and the Tox Uthat survived. The player and Daniels chase the Vorgons to the Uthat's storage place in 2375, during the Breen attack on Earth. In a confrontation, the player kills Ajur, prompting Boratus to join forces with the Future Guy from ENT. In a later mission, the player installs the Uthat aboard the Enterprise-J at Procyon V in the 26th century to destroy the Sphere Builder's sphere network.

Also, it turns out that Future Guy sent his Na'kuhl allies to 2268 so that when a Na'kuhl ship and a Tholian ship were mutually destroyed, the interphasic rift it generated would swallow up the U.S.S. Defiant (NCC-1764) to be found by mirror universe Archer. Aboard the Defiant was a message which Admiral Leeta would eventually see, prompting the Terran Empire to join Future Guy's Temporal Liberation Front.

The reason why the Tholians targeted the time travel pod in ENT - "Future Tense". DTI - Watching the Clock indicates that it was temporal policing action. STO implies that Tholians have a greater awareness of spacetime and were seeking the pod for their own technological advancement.

The shadowed sponsor of the Suliban Cabal from ENT. DTI - Watching the Clock portrays him as a 28th century mixed species genetic engineering supremacist. STO portrays him as a 25th century Krenim scientist.

The Breen. They are a multispecies confederation in the novels. In STO, no such indication is made.

Species 8472. In the novelverse, they prefer to be called Groundskeepers. Their home dimension, fluidic space, is a multiversal singularity. An alternate reality Voyager crew gives them a device which seals off access to their home from the outside. In STO, the multiversal singularity aspect is absent and they are called Undine. The Iconians access fluidic space with ease and manipulate them into attacking Alpha Quadrant powers.

The planet Galorndon Core from TNG - "The Enemy" and Chulak, the Romulan commander mentioned in VOY - "The Thaw". ENT - The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm portrays him as a 22nd century Romulan commander who rammed his ship into Galorndorn Core, turning it into a hellhole planet. Star Trek Online portrays Chulak as a 23rd century Romulan commander who allies with time-traveling Na'kuhl. When the alliance's doomsday machine goes out of control, it crashes into Galorndorn Core, also turning it into a hellhole.
 
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Deep Space 9. Destroyed in 2383 in Typhon Pact - Plagues of Night. Still active in 2410 in STO.

The mushroom-looking species from ENT - "Silent Enemy". In ENT - Rise of the Federation: A Choice of Futures, they have little understanding of humanoid lifeforms and did not understand that they were being threatening. They are also the offhandedly mentioned mute species of Gamma Vertis IV from TOS - "The Empath". In STO, they are called the Elachi and are servants of the Iconians.

The solanogen-based species from TNG - "Night Terrors". In TTN - Sight Unseen, they are revealed to be the sole intelligent species which is trying to escape a collapsing pocket dimension. In STO, they are a scientist caste of the Iconians who were accidentally exiled into subspace.

The neural parasites from TNG - "Conspiracy". The DS9 novels portray them as mutated Trill symbionts hailing from the extinct colony mentioned in TNG - "The Chase". Said parasites seek revenge on the Trill. In STO, the parasites are servants of the Iconians.

The Iconians. In the novels, they are a colossal species and exodused the Milky Way to go exploring places where their gateways could not reach. In STO, they are a human-sized semi-incorporeal species, and they return and try to conquer the galaxy.

The shadowed sponsor of the Suliban Cabal from ENT. DTI - Watching the Clock portrays him as a 28th century mixed species genetic engineering supremacist. STO portrays him as a 25th century Krenim scientist.

The reason why the Tholians targeted the time travel pod in ENT - "Future Tense". DTI - Watching the Clock indicates that it was temporal policing action. STO implies that Tholians have a greater awareness of spacetime and were seeking the pod for their own technological advancement.

The Breen. They are a multispecies confederation in the novels. In STO, no such indication is made.

Species 8472. In the novelverse, they prefer to be called Groundskeepers. Their home dimension, fluidic space, is a multiversal singularity. An alternate reality Voyager crew gives them a device which seals off access to their home from the outside. In STO, the multiversal singularity aspect is absent and they are called Undine. The Iconians access fluidic space with ease and manipulate them into attacking Alpha Quadrant powers.

The planet Galorndon Core from TNG - "The Enemy" and Chulak, the Romulan commander mentioned in VOY - "The Thaw". ENT - The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm portrays him as a 22nd century Romulan commander who rammed his ship into Galorndorn Core, turning it into a hellhole planet. Star Trek Online portrays Chulak as a 23rd century Romulan commander who allies with time-traveling Na'kuhl. When the alliance's doomsday machine goes out of control, it crashes into Galorndorn Core, also turning it into a hellhole.
And what do we learn from this? EVERYTHING in STO has to do with Iconians. Klingon/Fed relations are complete garbage? Damn Iconians! All the Preservers killed? Damn Iconians! No coffe? Damn Iconians!
 
Well I admit that I find STO's "everything is connected" portrayal of the Temporal Cold War to be fun.
I kinda forgot playing STO after finishing the 23rd century Federation captain stuff, which I quite enjoyed (nearly on par with the Legacy of Romulus Romulan Republic storyline and the last Iconian War mission. That one was so great!)

And come to think of it, the Imperial Romulan State was around longer in The Needs of the Many as opposed to the Typhon Pact novels. Also Donatra, Braeg, Sela and Tal'Aura die at different points.
 
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I haven't read Rihannsu, but I think it portrayed the Sundering very different from Vulcan's Soul.

EDIT: Or rather Vulcan's Soul portrayed it different from Rihannsu as Rihannsu came first.

Well, yes and no. Book 1 of Vulcan's Soul disagreed with the Duaneverse version of Surak's life and the events leading to the Sundering. But by the time Book 2 came along, there'd been a change of editors and apparently a change of plans, since its version of the journey of the Sundered from Vulcan to Romulus mapped quite closely onto the version described in The Romulan Way.
 
Deep Space 9. Destroyed in 2383 in Typhon Pact - Plagues of Night. Still active in 2410 in STO.

The Terran Rebellion. In the novels, they establish the peaceful Galactic Commonwealth. In STO, they restore the Terran Empire.

The mushroom-looking species from ENT - "Silent Enemy". In ENT - Rise of the Federation: A Choice of Futures, they have little understanding of humanoid lifeforms and did not understand that they were being threatening. They are also the offhandedly mentioned mute species of Gamma Vertis IV from TOS - "The Empath". In STO, they are called the Elachi and are servants of the Iconians.

The solanogen-based species from TNG - "Night Terrors". In TTN - Sight Unseen, they are revealed to be the sole intelligent species which is trying to escape a collapsing pocket dimension. In STO, they are a scientist caste of the Iconians who were accidentally exiled into subspace.

The neural parasites from TNG - "Conspiracy". The DS9 novels portray them as mutated Trill symbionts hailing from the extinct colony mentioned in TNG - "The Chase". Said parasites seek revenge on the Trill. In STO, the parasites are servants of the Iconians.

The Iconians. In the novels, they are a colossal species and exodused the Milky Way to go exploring places where their gateways could not reach. In STO, they are a human-sized semi-incorporeal species, and they return and try to conquer the galaxy.

Kal Dano, the unseen inventor of the Tox Uthat from TNG - "Captain's Holiday". In DTI - Watching the Clock, the Vorgons explain that he invented the Tox Uthat to destroy the Vorgon sun and civilization in the past. Subsequently, Daniels's colleague Jena Noi arrests Ajur and Boratus. In STO, he is a mixed-species non-villainous Federation scientist. Agent Daniels gives him a time travel pod, and he goes to save one of his ancestor species in the 25th century. After the Tholians steal the Tox Uthat, he and the player character retrieve it and hide it on 22nd century Risa. Dano is later killed and becomes the corpse from ENT - "Future Tense". The player character and a 29th century temporal agent retrieve his corpse. And it turns out that Picard tricked the Vorgons in "Captain's Holiday" and the Tox Uthat survived. The player and Daniels chase the Vorgons to the Uthat's storage place in 2375, during the Breen attack on Earth. In a confrontation, the player kills Ajur, prompting Boratus to join forces with the Future Guy from ENT. In a later mission, the player installs the Uthat aboard the Enterprise-J at Procyon V in the 26th century to destroy the Sphere Builder's sphere network.

Also, it turns out that Future Guy sent his Na'kuhl allies to 2268 so that when a Na'kuhl ship and a Tholian ship were mutually destroyed, the interphasic rift it generated would swallow up the U.S.S. Defiant (NCC-1764) to be found by mirror universe Archer. Aboard the Defiant was a message which Admiral Leeta would eventually see, prompting the Terran Empire to join Future Guy's Temporal Liberation Front.

The reason why the Tholians targeted the time travel pod in ENT - "Future Tense". DTI - Watching the Clock indicates that it was temporal policing action. STO implies that Tholians have a greater awareness of spacetime and were seeking the pod for their own technological advancement.

The shadowed sponsor of the Suliban Cabal from ENT. DTI - Watching the Clock portrays him as a 28th century mixed species genetic engineering supremacist. STO portrays him as a 25th century Krenim scientist.

The Breen. They are a multispecies confederation in the novels. In STO, no such indication is made.

Species 8472. In the novelverse, they prefer to be called Groundskeepers. Their home dimension, fluidic space, is a multiversal singularity. An alternate reality Voyager crew gives them a device which seals off access to their home from the outside. In STO, the multiversal singularity aspect is absent and they are called Undine. The Iconians access fluidic space with ease and manipulate them into attacking Alpha Quadrant powers.

The planet Galorndon Core from TNG - "The Enemy" and Chulak, the Romulan commander mentioned in VOY - "The Thaw". ENT - The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm portrays him as a 22nd century Romulan commander who rammed his ship into Galorndorn Core, turning it into a hellhole planet. Star Trek Online portrays Chulak as a 23rd century Romulan commander who allies with time-traveling Na'kuhl. When the alliance's doomsday machine goes out of control, it crashes into Galorndorn Core, also turning it into a hellhole.

So basically the entirety of STO is an alternate version of every other storypoint in books and comics. :techman:

Other ideas not mentioned yet which I came up with when this discusion occured to me are:

  • The fate of the USS Defiant post Tholian Web.
  • What happened immediately after the events of Mirror, Mirror.
  • What happened immediately after the events of The Cage.
  • The fate of Thomas Riker
  • The next time Kirk visits the Guardian of Forever after COTEOF.
  • The origin of the Doomsday Machine.
 
And then there are the two different SNW stories about Nog taking the Kobayashi Maru, which makes no sense, because that's a simulation for command-track seniors and Nog was a first-year engineering cadet.
 
Post-Destiny Seven of Nine was portrayed very differently in Voyager and New Frontier. Also Jellico didn't retire in New Frontier.
 
The comic miniseries Turnaround versus the novel Rise Like Lions on the fate of the mirror universe New Frontier cast.
 
I haven't made it that far in reading New Frontier yet, but I have a theory that moving those later novels pre Destiny but post Before Dishonor could solve all the odd continuity errors. I'm not sure if that theory holds up to close scrutiny.
 
I haven't made it that far in reading New Frontier yet, but I have a theory that moving those later novels pre Destiny but post Before Dishonor could solve all the odd continuity errors. I'm not sure if that theory holds up to close scrutiny.
As I recall, "Treason" was oddly ambiguous about whether the "recent Borg attack" it opened after was "Destiny" or "Before Dishonor." It seemed to be describing something smaller than the former but larger than the latter. I think you can probably squeeze "Treason," "Blind Man's Bluff," and "The Returned" all into the second half of 2380 with room to spare before "Destiny" begins. As for close scrutiny, it probably holds up better than placing the last few New Frontier books where they'd seem to go based on the TNG/DS9/TTN books that had come out in between them.
 
Ah, here's a fun one. DTI - Watching the Clock states that the Sphere Builders gave the Borg the time machine from First Contact. Meanwhile, Assimilation2 portrays that the Borg were prompted to conduct temporal research by their encounter with the Doctor. Haha!

I loved that bit. :adore: They're not mutually exclusive, though--IIRC Watching the Clock suggests that the uptime factions have been/are/will be preventing the Borg from assimilating time travel tech, so maybe the only way they could acquire the technology was from the Sphere Builders.

TC
 
And what do we learn from this? EVERYTHING in STO has to do with Iconians. Klingon/Fed relations are complete garbage? Damn Iconians! All the Preservers killed? Damn Iconians! No coffe? Damn Iconians!

Sounds like somebody needs a meme.

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I loved that bit. :adore: They're not mutually exclusive, though--IIRC Watching the Clock suggests that the uptime factions have been/are/will be preventing the Borg from assimilating time travel tech, so maybe the only way they could acquire the technology was from the Sphere Builders.

TC
I consider them mutually exclusive given the clear difference in authorial intent and because Assimilation2 is one of those stories done for fun and not to fit in with anything else.
 
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