oh are they?
Excessive Criticism of "STAR TREK VOYAGER"
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oh are they?
As a rule.
Well, when they needed to have them as series regulars, the notion of making them all monstrous giants via camera trickery wasn't a very practical one.
I still think they worked well. I still got that sense of hugeness from them.
I didn't, especially after "The Killing Game" but it wasn't, IMHO necessary for them to be giants to be menacing and/or dangerous. Nor, as time went on, was it even necessary for them to be dangerous enemies. The slow "conversion" of the Hirogen was one of the few "Humans save Aliens from themselves" plot lines that wasn't incredibly clunky and terrible.
I believe that the "average woman" went extinct some time ago.
I love Voyager, its neck and neck with TOS and TNG for me, in terms of favorite series. It could have been my favorite, I love the premise of being lost in the delta quadrant. The characters are largely underrated. The two biggest problems I have with Voyager is the 'reset' button, too many times they relied on the episode that 'didnt actually happen'. The other is, I feel like the writing was lazy, they rushed alot of the storylines it seems. Despite these two flaw, Voyager is one of my favorite series
DS9 had the resources needed to take risks.
You can't deny the negativity, though.
Another comparison, DS9's the Visitor has all its plot holes forgiven and ignored by no one is willing to extend that same open-mindedness to Living Witness.
Like I said, it had resources that VOY was denied.
VOY took a risk with its premise. No one's fault by the production team.
The production team was negative too. I can deny the negativity because I really didn't encounter it until I got online.
Depends. I often find "Living Witness" in top lists for VOY episodes.
But it is reasonable to stay where they are, waiting for Culluh to raise another armada to attack a wounded Voyager?
I think hightailing it somewhere else would be the most reasonable thing to do.
Well, unless this is a summer horror movie, then staying in the creepy house or the chainsaw filled barn during a thunder storm while a murderer is on the loose instead of hopping into the running car would be the thing the majority of teenagers would do.
Culluh didn't look like he was in any shape to attack Voyager again, for quite some time, not after a beating like that.
You need to state what they are, otherwise people can't agree or argue with your claim.
What strikes me about the Visitor is that there isn't any Dominion war in that alternate future, so it would seem that in order to have Sisko back from wherever he was, we had to sacrifice a few billion lives.
All that time you timey wimey s space wacey stuff give me a headache.
Culluh took a beating on Voyager... from which he successfully escaped with his son's life intact and I'm sure a healthy need for revenge for the death of his consort / mother of his child. All he needs is to convince a few more Kazon sects to join with him by dangling stories of what Voyager can do and currently what Voyager CAN'T do but only if he strikes quickly enough before Tom brings too many systems back online.
[Bridge]
PARIS: I'm sealing off the Bridge manually. I've got to get the computer back online. All Starfleet voice access has been disabled.
PAXIM: I'm reading a Kazon shuttle leaving the ship. There are also escape pods being launched.
PARIS: Forget them. We have more important things to do.
And Jadzia.
The Visitor was Season 2? 3? Way before the Dominion War arc was conceived. Put that down as a continuity error rather than plot hole.
I don't take that as a plot hole. I take that as meaning that Sisko's presence on the station was a decisive factor in starting the dominion war.
It doesn't change that everything people say they like about DS9 vs VOY is due to the extra resources DS9 had that VOY didn't.
You would be too if every last little thing you did was ripped apart to an obscene level.
And guess what the number one thing people always point out about that episode? I'll give you a hint, it isn't the plot or the acting or the premise.
How the Klingon and Dominion Wars never happened in the No-Sisko future.
