CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Well said. Not that I think you needed to defend it, but you did it well.
Peters and his supporters still don't seem to get it. Fanfilms are playing in someone else's backyard. It's not the place of Peters to make the rules.
Legitimate unbiased factual reporting setting the record straight like the type Carlos is providing seems like a valid endeavor to me. I certainly appreciate it. Or would you rather Alec and his P.R. spokesholes are left unchecked spinning hyperbolic deceptive contradictions misleading people?
Well, the Axanar shitkickers have stooped to a new low.
Apparently, according to Facebook user guidelines, I've been restricted from seeing or accessing the CBS/Paramount vs. Axanar Facebook group, a group I have been a contributing member to for months, and through which I have had no prior issue. As near as I can determine, the only reason I would suddenly be on temporary restriction from this group would be because someone from the Axanar camp (I wonder who?) has, in a petty display of immaturity, petulance and (as is par for the course when dealing with Lord Dipshit) intellectual cowardice, tried to report me to Facebook.
At most this is a minor irritation, so meh.
But it's worth reporting because I refuse to be silenced, either by Alec Peters' intellectual cowardice and internet bullying, or the mob mentality of his brainwashed acolytes, and so that others will know - these cowards are willing to do anything to try to stop us from being able to communicate in an open forum about their wrongdoing and shenanigans. It's not enough that Alec and Rob's greed and selfishness are putting fan films at risk, they have to silence every dissenting voice out there.
It'd be easy to drop the matter and stop commenting. It'd be even easier to ignore it and just mind my own business. But not speaking up just allows these assholes to get away with their manipulating the system. Worse, it allows them to get away with their special brand of idiotic bullying tactics, and I simply won't sit idly by for this shit if it means it could happen to someone else.
Not gonna happen, dipshits. And when you get scrunched in court, I will be among the first to celebrate the lawful application of jurisprudence to your stupid asses. Its this exact kind of nefarious and underhanded bullshit that is turning everyone against you.
Lastly, in fairness it may not have been anyone from the Axanar camp that did this; I just don't know. Facebook has not offered any kind of response to my queries about this. However in 15+ years of using Facebook with this same account, I have not once had such an issue. I can only assume someone over at the Axanar camp who can't handle hearing the awful truth may be behind this.
Apparently, according to Facebook user guidelines, I've been restricted from seeing or accessing the CBS/Paramount vs. Axanar Facebook group, a group I have been a contributing member to for months, and through which I have had no prior issue. As near as I can determine, the only reason I would suddenly be on temporary restriction from this group would be because someone from the Axanar camp (I wonder who?) has, in a petty display of immaturity, petulance and (as is par for the course when dealing with Lord Dipshit) intellectual cowardice, tried to report me to Facebook.
At most this is a minor irritation, so meh.
But it's worth reporting because I refuse to be silenced, either by Alec Peters' intellectual cowardice and internet bullying, or the mob mentality of his brainwashed acolytes, and so that others will know - these cowards are willing to do anything to try to stop us from being able to communicate in an open forum about their wrongdoing and shenanigans. It's not enough that Alec and Rob's greed and selfishness are putting fan films at risk, they have to silence every dissenting voice out there.
It'd be easy to drop the matter and stop commenting. It'd be even easier to ignore it and just mind my own business. But not speaking up just allows these assholes to get away with their manipulating the system. Worse, it allows them to get away with their special brand of idiotic bullying tactics, and I simply won't sit idly by for this shit if it means it could happen to someone else.
Not gonna happen, dipshits. And when you get scrunched in court, I will be among the first to celebrate the lawful application of jurisprudence to your stupid asses. Its this exact kind of nefarious and underhanded bullshit that is turning everyone against you.
Lastly, in fairness it may not have been anyone from the Axanar camp that did this; I just don't know. Facebook has not offered any kind of response to my queries about this. However in 15+ years of using Facebook with this same account, I have not once had such an issue. I can only assume someone over at the Axanar camp who can't handle hearing the awful truth may be behind this.
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Wow, that sucks. Is FB obligated to e-mail you at some point with exact information regarding the reasons for the restriction? Or does FB leave you wondering? I don't use FB so I don't know.
The only notification I have was buried in my settings page; no explanation was offered beyond "we think you might be posting information from other profiles" or some such nonsense, which is hard for me to fathom - I deleted FB off my phone weeks ago, and only really check it in the mornings and at night now, if that. Outside of wishing people a happy birthday or posting a meme to the CBS group, I'm not sure what behavior FB could legitimately defend as being actionable if someone from the Axanar camp wasn't trying to silence me.
I like to think of AP as a ferkahkte schmuck (a fucked up prick)
Perhaps we can add Shnorrer (see the Al Capp Diagram)
I'm not sure CBS has $200 million to give to RMB and AP to make a cheap and cut-rate version of their vision.
Someone mentioned something about the latest Axanar's latest pod-cast. I had only listened to the first few minutes the day it was posted, but this something made me go listen to the whole thing. Part of the conversation was with "Steve" about some books he wrote. I did a little digging into that. It seems that this person wrote four novels set in the same time period as the Axanar "fan film". A little more digging, and I find this person started a kick-starter page to raise money so he can pay a professional editor to work on his books.
Now, here's the thing that bothers me: if this guy had an agent, he could get a contract with an authorized licensed Trek-book publisher who in turn would have editors on staff. Correct??? I mean, I'm not a professional writer, but I have never heard of an author needing to have his work edited before going to a publisher for a contract. (I'll bet some publishers wish writers would have a first-edit before submitting their works.)
This leads me to believe that the author intends to self-publish without any license deal at all from any IP holder. If so, and given recent events and the overall climate at CBS, I think this person should seriously reconsider his plans. And by cozying up to Alec Peters and the Axanar project, he is just begging for a huge target be tattooed on his back.
Now, here's the thing that bothers me: if this guy had an agent, he could get a contract with an authorized licensed Trek-book publisher who in turn would have editors on staff. Correct??? I mean, I'm not a professional writer, but I have never heard of an author needing to have his work edited before going to a publisher for a contract. (I'll bet some publishers wish writers would have a first-edit before submitting their works.)
This leads me to believe that the author intends to self-publish without any license deal at all from any IP holder. If so, and given recent events and the overall climate at CBS, I think this person should seriously reconsider his plans. And by cozying up to Alec Peters and the Axanar project, he is just begging for a huge target be tattooed on his back.
I liked that scene in all it's bizarre glory.
This was covered in the FB group I think. The guy is no better than Peters but has now had the sense to give it up I think.
Nope. He's finished his Trek-related Kickstarters and is focusing on his own stuff going forward. He did self-publish in that he put the ebooks on his own site for free download. Physical copies of the books were published but seem to have been kept as a limited run to fulfill the Kickstarter perks.
I backed his more recent Romulan War / technical manual series on Kickstarter so I got the updates coming through that that he was finishing up his Trek sideline (largely again it seemed in response to the Axanar lawsuit).
I backed his more recent Romulan War / technical manual series on Kickstarter so I got the updates coming through that that he was finishing up his Trek sideline (largely again it seemed in response to the Axanar lawsuit).
But but peters is a superfan. He should be king of the sandbox.
His facebook page was alternately known as the 'Four Years War' and 'Four Years War/Romulan War', but it seems he wisely decided to change the name. You can go back through his posts/comments and check things out though still.
https://www.facebook.com/BetaSectorStories/?fref=nf
(His novels and such are also still up - http://jollyrogersproductions.net/?page_id=95 )
This guy might've skirted the line heavily, but as his stuff isn't in the donor store and his name isn't listed anywhere as a writer/consultant, I doubt he'll find himself in hot water (though he did come pretty damn close from the looks of it)
https://www.facebook.com/BetaSectorStories/?fref=nf
(His novels and such are also still up - http://jollyrogersproductions.net/?page_id=95 )
This guy might've skirted the line heavily, but as his stuff isn't in the donor store and his name isn't listed anywhere as a writer/consultant, I doubt he'll find himself in hot water (though he did come pretty damn close from the looks of it)
980 - 20 pages to go
"Superfan" Intro to the series / movie...
Faster then a speeding bullet ( cue footage of a toy gun w/ cork in it ) * pop *
More powerful then a locomotive ( cue footage of a toy train ) * choo choo *
Able to leap the tallest building ( cue footage of LEGO skyscraper )
Look down in the dirt... It's a Nerd... It's a Pain... No it's SUPERFAN...
Yes, SUPERFAN strange being form another planet... Perhaps even an alternate reality from our own...
Who disguised as Alec Peters... Fights a never-ending battle against Paramount / CBS...
IP laws who's ink hasn't even dried yet thanks in part to DCMA...
And to make his dream of making the ultimate FanFilm come true...
( music swells to over-the-top-ness )
"Superfan" Intro to the series / movie...
Faster then a speeding bullet ( cue footage of a toy gun w/ cork in it ) * pop *
More powerful then a locomotive ( cue footage of a toy train ) * choo choo *
Able to leap the tallest building ( cue footage of LEGO skyscraper )
Look down in the dirt... It's a Nerd... It's a Pain... No it's SUPERFAN...
Yes, SUPERFAN strange being form another planet... Perhaps even an alternate reality from our own...
Who disguised as Alec Peters... Fights a never-ending battle against Paramount / CBS...
IP laws who's ink hasn't even dried yet thanks in part to DCMA...
And to make his dream of making the ultimate FanFilm come true...
( music swells to over-the-top-ness )
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