Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[Dick Whitman]

The issue of where to put SG.

http://www.chron.com/entertainment/...-s-How-The-CW-Plans-to-Keep-Flash-7463080.php

Originally it seemed DC's Legends this past season was going to follow a similar plan. Being new in weeks when Arrow and The Flash were in reruns. But that rarely happened. even with fewer episodes it's season is ending about the same time as the other 2 shows.

Perhaps that was nessasary because the first half of those series' seasons setup Legends.

I would prefer if we had longer stretches of new episodes. Even if it meant more than one show alternated a single time slot different times of the year.

 

[Christopher]

I would prefer if we had longer stretches of new episodes. Even if it meant more than one show alternated a single time slot different times of the year.

Heck, that would be an advantage to having shows set on different parallel Earths. Then you wouldn't have to worry about coordinating their respective events (except during multiverse crossovers), so there'd be no problem with having one series air a bunch of new episodes while the other was on hiatus. That is, there'd be no need to explain why all the storylines in one show just go on pause for a couple of months just when the storylines on the other show get active. Since they're in separate universes, you don't have to pretend their episodes are taking place in chronological order relative to each other.

(Heck, The CW has been having problems with coordinating timing when shows do cross over. The Flash side of the Supergirl crossover -- such as it was -- got delayed by several weeks, and Barry's appearance at the funeral in a recent Arrow episode showed him with superspeed even though he was powerless in the surrounding few Flash episodes. So the chronology lately has been a bit of a mess.)

 

[DigificWriter]

The 3 interconnected Arrowverse shows have never been that good when it comes to correlating their individual narratives with respect to their companion shows, something I figured out firsthand when I made an attempt to line everything up, so it's not just a "cross-network" issue.

 

[Christopher]

The 3 interconnected Arrowverse shows have never been that good when it comes to correlating their individual narratives with respect to their companion shows, something I figured out firsthand when I made an attempt to line everything up, so it's not just a "cross-network" issue.

Sure, but I'm not saying anything about crossing networks. I'm saying that, even with the shows on the same network, having one of them in a different universe would ease the problem of trying to keep them all mutually consistent. They have enough problems reconciling three shows in a single continuity (three and a half, counting Vixen); adding a fourth would make it even more of a mess. So it's probably better to let Supergirl stay in its own reality and only occasionally cross them over.

 

[DigificWriter]

I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you; I was reinforcing your point, but also pointing out that the problem of making all of the shows that are explicitly set in the same continuity line up chronologically by airdate isn't just a recent thing, but has always been an issue.

 

[Guy Gardener]

A lot of Spider-People cross dimensionally, currently have "free" transit cross dimensionally with absolutely no oversight or consequences.

Silk, Spider-Gwen, and Spider-Woman seem to be using their dimensional portals to go on shopping trips, and figure out nice restaurants to eat at that they're not bored about, now that they have dozens to hundreds of New York Cities to use as back yard stomping grounds rather than just the one.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I wish DC would have each of their actual comic titles on their own Earths for similar reasons. They do such a bad job of maintaining continuity amoung all their different titles anyways.

If it meant that the Batman in his own titles exists on a different Earth than the one in the JLA, so what? No need to shoe horn the concept of Batman perceived as an Urban Legend to the public with Batman a member of very public superhero team. That is just one example of many.

 

[Taylirious]

Wait! I thought it was a lock that the show would be back on CBS!!!

I am glad it is on The CW.

 

[tomalak301]

Wait! I thought it was a lock that the show would be back on CBS!!!

I am glad it is on The CW.

I always thouht it was a lock to get renewed. I'm glad it's CW and not cbs all access, even though having trek and Supergirl would make the subscription worth it.

 

[dahj]

I'm glad it's CW and not cbs all access

Kinda surprised the All Access option hasn't even been mentioned during all this speculation, considering MCU shows brought a lot of business to Netflix, and CBS doesn't really have a hook for it other than the new ST show.

 

[Guy Gardener]

These are two completely different licensing contracts.

TV vs. The Internets.

Sticking Supergirl on CBS All Access, would be starting over from scratch, and probably starting over with a different corner of Warner Brothers, and a different team of lawyers.

 

[dahj]

^^
Didn't Cat hire Lucy Lane to deal with the lawyers?

 

[cylkoth]

Kinda surprised the All Access option hasn't even been mentioned during all this speculation, considering MCU shows brought a lot of business to Netflix, and CBS doesn't really have a hook for it other than the new ST show.

Since CBS doesn't have an ownership stake in SG, paying $3 million an episode on a show which will bring you no further ancillary profits was most likely a non starter.

 

[theenglish]

I think the producers can and should use the relocation to think about what worked about season one, about what didn't work, and, basically, rethink the show to focus on the good stuff. Which, for me, is Kara's life in National City and her relationships with her coworkers, her sister, and J'onn.

If it were up to me, I'd eliminate the entire DEO setting entirely. Not the characters, just the setting. This would save them some money upfront (no need to recreate the DEO sets in Vancouver), and it would eliminate some of the tonal and narrative schizophrenia Supergirl suffered as it switched from the CatCo setting to the DEO setting.

Or at least move Supergirl away from the DEO. All that would be required is for Alex to move to a different job. Lucy Lane could still be a recurring character in charge of the DEO along with Hank. I liked his character, but there is not reason that he needs to be around every single week especially now that people know his identity.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The DEO (Cadmus.) has held Alex's Daddy prisoner for the last decade almost.

That place is going to be pulled down from the inside by Alex Danvers.

It's a secret government outfit run on an illegal black budget.

Publish that budget in a newspaper and half of Congress will wind up in jail, and the IRS (others too) will seize every nut and bolt in that base complex (and the 40 other bases US wide has) stolen from the American people through fraud and deceit.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Cadmus should not be "pulled down from the inside"--particularly if the organization is not afraid to use its enhanced being tools to protect its interests. To increase the sense of a threat that's not a one off (liks so many SG villains), or the lackluster Kryptonian arc, the series needs Cadmus to make a bold statement in SG's life--like kill one or more people she's close to. No more faceless office employee woman jumping to her death. Make it a big choice and let it stand as a message that the world is grim, and there will be no easy solutions, or "big event" at season's end to wrap things up.

 

[theenglish]

To this day I think it is a shame that COIE ever happened. The concept of multiple Earths worked well for many years and was easily explained in a single panel when necessary. It would work as easily on television. Supergirl is fine on her own Earth.

 

[Christopher]

To this day I think it is a shame that COIE ever happened. The concept of multiple Earths worked well for many years and was easily explained in a single panel when necessary. It would work as easily on television. Supergirl is fine on her own Earth.

I've seen it argued that the whole "the multiverse was too confusing" excuse for Crisis was bogus because parallel Earths were only occasionally used and were clearly explained when they were, and that the real reason for doing Crisis was DC's longstanding desire to be more like Marvel. Since all the characters in the Marvel Universe's history shared one big continuity, DC wanted the same for their characters. This is given credence when you consider that the writer-artists brought in to reboot DC's two biggest characters post-COIE -- Frank Miller and John Byrne -- were both prominent Marvel creators before DC brought them in.

It's interesting, then, that the current TV/movie situation parallels the traditional difference between DC and Marvel in comics. Marvel has one big universe encompassing most everything (except the X-Men and the FF, for now) while DC's screen properties are set in a bunch of separate realities (more so than DC's actual comics ever really were). Although DC's still trying to imitate Marvel's example by building an interconnected film universe.

 

[theenglish]

From what's happened on Flash this season, the movie universe can easily be considered a separate Earth in the unified multiverse.

Interestingly with Marvel, they went the opposite way and created their own multiverse.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They just have to have the original Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Smash all the worlds together.