CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[SeerSGB]

What's left to settle? What could they do to appease CBS now?

If you were in Axanar's shoes, what would you offer?

If you were in CBS's shoes, what would you accept?

(Unless you mean "CBS should setting and give in to Axanar.")

At this point, the best thing Axanar can do is throw in the towel and offer to settle for reduced monetary damages, handing over the studio and any cash remaining the coffers, and a injunction on Peters and specific higher ups not to attempt or participate in creating fan-films in the future

 

[TRON JA307020]

At this point, the best thing Axanar can do is throw in the towel and offer to settle for reduced monetary damages, handing over the studio and any cash remaining the coffers, and a injunction on Peters and specific higher ups not to attempt or participate in creating fan-films in the future

Yup its time to shut Peters down and confiscate anything that is Axanar related. Any footage that hasn't been shown should be destroyed by paramount once they get it. I am sure Peters has made copies and will try to leak it out later on but at leas the gesture of destroying the footage by Paramount would be symbolic and make a fool out of Peters.

 

[Jody Wheeler]

It's been suggested that any settlement would stipulate that Alec forever remove himself from anything Trek related, as a fan or as a (legit) businessman. I'm not sure he'd be willing to do that.

 

[SeerSGB]

It's been suggested that any settlement would stipulate that Alec forever remove himself from anything Trek related, as a fan or as a (legit) businessman. I'm not sure he'd be willing to do that.

I don't think they can stop him being a fan, but they could stop him from ever doing business in regards to Trek related merchandise or properties--I would think.

 

[Squiggy]

Given these latest rulings, I'd say any firm thinking about joining the case have withdrawn their offer.

And now they've seen 5 months of Alec being the worst.ever.client.ever.

I agree that he probably has just one law firm, but one of the things he said in his Feb. 1 interview with 1701News was that they were bringing in a second law firm.

But "Axanar" itself is on hiatus, as Peters welcomes an unnamed second legal team to join his already announced pro bono representation of Winston & Strawn. Even with that well-established law firm on his side, Peters wants to never have to step into a courtroom.
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http://1701news.com/node/1001/peters-axanar-quality-spurred-lawsuit.html

One of his many big announcements that never happened. Aren't we currently in another big announcement period?

It's been suggested that any settlement would stipulate that Alec forever remove himself from anything Trek related, as a fan or as a (legit) businessman. I'm not sure he'd be willing to do that.

Given the Judge's speed of the near universal smack down, it won't be up to Alex in 7 months.

 

[TRON JA307020]

It's been suggested that any settlement would stipulate that Alec forever remove himself from anything Trek related, as a fan or as a (legit) businessman. I'm not sure he'd be willing to do that.

Willing or not if its ordered by the court that he can no longer make fan films of Trek he will have to follow it.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Willing or not if its ordered by the court that he can no longer make fan films of Trek he will have to follow it.

That sounds less like something a court would order on its own, than a settlement term crafted to avoid losing one's shirt.

 

[Indysolo]

I don't think they can stop him being a fan, but they could stop him from ever doing business in regards to Trek related merchandise or properties--I would think.

The only Star Trek business he should be allowed to do is the ability to buy movie tickets and official merchandise.

Neil

 

[muCephi]

There is a part of me that wonders if Erin's playing around with the MTD and plans to come out swinging. Then I remember it's a pro bono case and she likely has many, MANY more important cases to deal with

Been thinking about this... she did say the main argument is "fair use", and while it probably will be harder to make the case given an explicit foreshadowing that high level similarity is the name of the game, she must have anticipated this would be the playing field for the most part, anyway.

So I doubt they will back down just yet. The moment will probably be damage control, to the extent they can persuade Alec to ST^&*%(^&*$%&*^*&(^ up. And trying to persuade insiders to not jump ship or at least walk away. Good luck with that one.

 

[TribbleTrouble1]

It's been suggested that any settlement would stipulate that Alec forever remove himself from anything Trek related, as a fan or as a (legit) businessman. I'm not sure he'd be willing to do that.

It's been more than just suggested. The plaintiffs' complaint asks for an injunction restraining defendants from ever infringing on any Star Trek copyrighted work ever again, directly or indirectly, anywhere in the world. It wouldn't lock him out of legitimate things related to Star Trek but he'd never be able to work in fan projects of any kind again.

 

[Franklin]

I've never met a humble lawyer.

Me either, actually, and I wouldn't want one to represent me. But I wouldn't want one full of hubris, either, like Ms. Ranahan's statement (that I was referring to with my remark) implied. I'd say she still has plenty to learn, and this case may actually make her a better lawyer for the experience.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

(resists diverting thread into pointless discussion of the definition of humility)

 

[muCephi]

Me either, actually, and I wouldn't want one to represent me. But I wouldn't want one full of hubris, either, like Ms. Ranahan's statement (that I was referring to with my remark) implied. I'd say she still has plenty to learn, and this case may actually make her a better lawyer for the experience.

And her future opponents may occasionally wear generic pointed ears into court

Will be interesting to see what else will be put forward.

 

[Professor Zoom]

So, will this thread remain going until January? Or will Peters settle first?

Place your bets!

 

[muCephi]

So, will this thread remain going until January? Or will Peters settle first?

Place your bets!

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

So, will this thread remain going until January? Or will Peters settle first?

Place your bets!

Can I bet both?

 

[Steve Roby]

Two minor tangents:

1. I work with a lot of lawyers (I'm a government librarian) and a lot of them are pretty cool people. There's one I often geek out with about Doctor Who. But then these are in-house government lawyers, not people shooting for partner at a big law firm. That may make a difference.

2. Would it be so very wrong if I went full grammar nazi on the difference between infer and imply?

 

[RCAM]

2. Would it be so very wrong if I went full grammar nazi on the difference between infer and imply?

I was hoping someone else would notice! I remained silent for fear of coming off as a pseudointellectual jerk.

 

[Franklin]

I've always thought it would end in a settlement where Peters has to admit to overreach in the area of IP and gives up the Axanar project, destroying everything that exists. Though I can see the arguments for CBS/P carrying it forward if they want to make a broader statement. But there is no real money to be had from Peters even if they are entitled to damages, a trial costs even CBS/P significant money (and even if Peters has to pay their court costs, where does that money come from?), and Peters' reputation is already ruined and he's probably through in the industry. At some point, even for CBS/P, it becomes piling on.

Of course, this doesn't mean Peters couldn't face other legal problems coming from Axanar. To that extent, CBS/P may leave him to the vultures, too.

 

[BillJ]

I've always thought it would end in a settlement where Peters has to admit to overreach in the area of IP and gives up the Axanar project, destroying everything that exists. Though I can see the arguments for CBS/P carrying it forward if they want to make a broader statement. But there is no real money to be had from Peters even if they are entitled to damages, a trial costs even CBS/P significant money (and even if Peters has to pay their court costs, where does that money come from?), and Peters' reputation is already ruined and he's probably through in the industry. At some point, even for CBS/P, it becomes piling on.

Of course, this doesn't mean Peters couldn't face other legal problems coming from Axanar. To that extent, CBS/P may leave him to the vultures, too.

I think they're in it for the long haul to make a statement.