Christopher, have you considered bringing earplugs or noise-reducing headphones into the cinema and applying them at appropriate scenes?
I addressed this above -- it's about far more than just the noise. The noise is just a symptom of a directorial style I dislike profoundly.
Heck, if Wonder Woman weren't in this movie, I probably wouldn't see it at all. Sure, you can talk about not judging a movie before you see it, but this is a sequel to a movie I did see, by the same director whose style I've come to dislike deeply, and to all reports it has all the same stuff I hated about MoS and possibly less of the stuff I liked. If you don't like a creator's work the first time, there's no obligation to continue following their work in hopes that the next installment will be completely different. I am going to see BvS eventually, but I will do so grudgingly, and in spite of Zack Snyder's involvement. I'll try to keep an open mind, I'll hope to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm sure as hell not going to spend current movie-ticket prices to see anything Snyder makes.
Lastly, I laughed when it was Batman basically saying to Diana basically: "Hey, we need to form a 'Justice League' because anyone who KNOWS this overall comics history of the League; batman would be one of the LAST people to instigate that, and further, once it was formed; would be a part time supporter at best.
Well, that depends on the version. In the animated series
The Batman, it was Batman (who by that point had accumulated a fair-sized team including Batgirl and Robin) who taught Superman not to be such a loner and who spearheaded the formation of the Justice League. Which, of course, was because it was his show, but it made sense for the version of the character that they'd spent several seasons establishing. And in the following series,
Batman: The Brave and the Bold, Batman was again at the center of forming the League (specifically the JLI in the Giffen-DeMatteis vein), and was constantly teaming up with every hero out there, because it was specifically designed as a Batman team-up show, with Batman as a more upbeat, Silver-Agey hero who was the undisputed leader of the hero community.
Really, the idea that Batman must always be a loner is a comparatively recent revisionist take. For the first few decades of his career, Batman was constantly, inseparably paired with Robin. They were always the Dynamic Duo. Then there's Batgirl, the successor Robins, and so forth, not to mention Batman's long association with the Justice League in various incarnations. There's at least as much comics precedent for a gregarious Batman as there is for an antisocial one -- probably considerably more, because even the "loner" Batman has a way of accumulating a ridiculous number of Robins and Batgirls and other allies.
It's just interesting to me how much I enjoy WB/DCs handling of their current Live Action shows on television, while their big budget film attempts of late turn out mediocre at best. YMMV.
Well, they're different branches of the corporation. Also, TV is much more writer-driven, while movies are not only more director-driven, but more marketing-driven in ways that often work against their quality.
For example, did we really need the credits montage to retell Batman's origin? Seriously? I know they want to tell their own story, but whatever continuity they may take place in, there have been SEVEN major Batman films in the last 27 years (not to mention his presence in other media in that time, notably various animated series)...we know this shit, get on with it. Take a cue from the Adam West series and drop an early passing reference to Bruce's parents having been killed by dastardly criminals if you must. Bruce's brief flashback during the "Martha" scene could have been all that we saw of Batman's origin and it would have gotten the point across.
Or better yet, have Clark and Lois unearth the information about Bruce's parents during their investigation, and put it together with Batman. Give them a chance to do some journalism in a way that ties integrally into the story. (Come to think of it, isn't that basically what Alexander Knox and Vicki Vale did in the '89 movie?)
As for the greater DC franchise...I haven't had any interest in Suicide Squad, don't expect that change...
Normally, that wouldn't be my cup of tea. But the trailer and publicity have made it seem interesting and possibly a lot of fun.
They've been using that term in DC Comics since at least the '90s...it's not an Arrowverse-specific thing.
Yeah, "metahuman" isn't even a DC-specific term. The term was coined by George R.R. Martin in 1986, in the context of a role-playing game that formed the basis for
Wild Cards, a shared-universe series of prose anthologies and novels edited by Martin and debuting in 1987. It was introduced to the DC Universe in their
Invasion! crossover event in 1988-9, most likely drawing on
Wild Cards as an inspiration. (
Wild Cards was a gritty, grounded, deconstructionist take on the idea of superheroes, so it's probably been an influence on just about all superhero fiction since, directly or indirectly.)
And the Arrowverse isn't even the first time it's been used on TV. The short-lived
Birds of Prey series used metahumans as a regular feature. Even though it was based on the Batman mythos, it tacked on superpowers in an attempt to imitate
Smallville (from the same producers) and its weekly meteor freaks.
