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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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David "No Dog in This Fight" Gerrold chimes in once again on the Axanar lawsuit, says CBS and Paramount are jeopardizing it's greatest asset — fan loyalty and goodwill. Same story, same rant, different words.

Wow, he wants so badly to believe "the fans" are following all of this with some great interest.
 
6. I'm suspicious of this deal because if Ares pays back Axanar all the studio build out expenses and back rent and future rent - AND Axanar gets non profit status retroactively it negates all our reasons for bitching about Axanar. So we would have nothing to complain about. Ta Da! Detractors defanged!! I don't believe it for a second, but if he pulls if off, bully for him. He's good at extracting money from rabid, unquestioning fans.

10. There will never be financial data released by Axanar unless compelled to do so in court. We will never find out what happened to the $519,000 raised in the 2015 Indiegogo campaign.

I guess it is true that if they file for nonprofit status sometime during this year, they can say they were a 'nonprofit in formation'. But I think there are criteria to demonstrate in order to make this case, such as acting as a public good and not having investors. If they go ahead with this investment scheme they might find the IRS is not a fan of granting them retroactive nonprofit status. The legit nonprofit, I would think, could only be traced back to the moment when Axanar Productions dropped its profit-making ambitions and adopted the nonprofit governance and other expectations of such organizations.

Discovery could yield books to C/P. If C/P then puts the books or some part of them into a filing as evidence, the books might become public. I am not sure if pre-trial motion/countermotion filings are all public, or if it only happens in the cases of summary judgment filing and/or trial. Same with internal emails. I imagine the defense could challenge the scope of what is filed, but something might come out.

Just wanted to point out what a brilliant descriptor this is.

perhaps scope it a bit according to its real-world importance: desTeapotic loon.

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To be honest, I've been unimpressed with Gerrold since he defended the rape joke he made a few years ago, then selectively deleted comments from anyone commenting about it against him, and then launched a whole new comment/discussion/tirade defending his "sense of humor."

A few months ago, he posted an entirely contradictory comment about how rape jokes weren't funny.

Apart from being someone who has destroyed any chance of working for CBS, Paramount or Star Trek again in any professional capacity, the man is a shameless hypocrite, glomming on to whatever chance comes along to be relevant again.

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The dust up with "Kitumba" and Gerrold's vindictive and passive-aggressive approach to the issue of Mignogna and Specht being credited properly was just icing on the cake that proved this guy wouldn't know or understand professional consideration if Alec Peters sold it on his Donor's Store.
 
We (mostly) have been expressing our feelings and opinions on this Thread, now, for about 600 pages, and I have tried to be a good reader of the Posts, but has anyone explored the possibility of or shared knowledge as to whether, in the interest of legal fees and expenses, time and effort of executives and minions, and, oh yeah, the fans, CBS/Paramount could actually end up getting Axanar (the "Movie") as part of a settlement or award, and go ahead and make the thing?
If C/P were to be awarded the "assets" of AP (script, sets, costumes, etc.) I can imagine Les Moonves lighting a bigass bonfire in the Ares Non-Studio Studio parking lot. :lol:
 
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Apart from being someone who has destroyed any chance of working for CBS, Paramount or Star Trek again in any professional capacity, the man is a shameless hypocrite, glomming on to whatever chance comes along to be relevant again.
So you're saying David Gerrold is a Glommer?

Works for me. :techman:
 
If C/P were to be awarded the "assets" of AP (script, sets, costunes, etc.) I can imagine a Les Moonves lighting a bigass bonfire in the Ares Non-Studio Studio parking lot. :lol:

It is common in patents to acquire a threatening patent and then do nothing with it. I am not actually sure whether ownership of a creative work in violation of copyright is actually assigned to the copyright owner after a victory, though. It is derivative, it is stopped, but it would be interesting to know what happens to it after that.
 
Wow, he wants so badly to believe "the fans" are following all of this with some great interest.
I'm sorry, but the majority of the fans really don't give a crap about fan films, or Axanar, the only this is all news worthy is because the Axanar people have pretty much done everything wrong in this situation. When all of this is resolved, CBS/P might lose a few "real fans", but everybody else is just going to go back to watching the new movies and TV show like none of this ever happened. In a couple years most people probably won't even remember the name Alec Peters or Axanar.
 
Over at Axanar's IMDb page all of the information has been deleted, actors, production crew, writers, all of it. The actors who were listed as tentatively appearing in Axanar now have no listing on their individual IMDb pages mentioning Axanar.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3302086/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

On Alec Peters IMDb page is a listing for a new Star Trek film project starring (you guessed it) Alec Peters; Star Trek: Decisions: Carpe Tempora (2016).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5361540/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1

Round two of IP violations? I imagine CBS/P is going to be taking a hard look at AP's new Star Trek vanity project.

Edit: This new Star Trek film looks like something Peters is participating in, not an Axanar project per se..
 
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Maybe Paramount was planning to use their alternate universe version of Garth in the fourth film! LOL .. then again maybe not.

Actually, when rumors of the "Villain" and promos for "Star Trek: Into Darkness" came out - I was thinking perhaps it was going to be 'Captain Garth of Izar' (IMO - they did a good job with the reuse of 'Khan' - YMMV of course); but I was disappointed they didn't use 'Garth of Izar'.
 
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