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The X-Files : Season X (Spoilers!)

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I'm one of the seemingly few that actually liked the mythology episodes in the X-Files, but that episode was all over the place. I loved the conspiracy theories of the show in the nineties, but now they just seem laughable. Part of it was I was a teenager in the X-Files original run, and maybe that kind of thing was just so awesome for dumb teenage me. Today too many people actually believe in some of the crazier theories that they no longer seem interesting when presented on the X-Files. Now they just seem sad.

Actually they could be interesting, but my biggest problem with "My Struggle II" was the rather awful dialogue. I mean was Chris Carter always this bad? I can forgive a lot if the dialogue is entertaining, even in a ham-fisted or campy way. This just seemed off.

The cliffhanger doesn't bother me. I fully expect that Fox will bring it back for another limited season. I'm just not to sure I care, and I was one who was really excited about this new season.
 
Yeah, I was really unhappy with the final episode. THIS is how you end it? With the two characters never in the same location, dealing with a viral apocalypse? I don't even remember Reyes as a character and I think it's effed up they made her working for Cancer Man. And bringing back Cancer Man just seems silly at this point. It's like he's the single person responsible for the entire conspiracy. Where's everyone else?

The idea of the apocalypse was interesting, but every aspect of the way the episode went about was just disappointing. I can't believe they ended on a nonsensical cliffhanger resolving nothing, not knowing if they would ever come back. Ridiculous.

Biggest WTF moment: Miller enters Mulder's office and finds his laptop sitting there WITHOUT ANY PASSWORD PROTECTION. Fox Mulder, the most paranoid SOB in the world, doesn't password protect his computer? And he has a program to track his cellphone?

So in the end, I absolutely loved the Darin Morgan episode, and everything else was pretty meh.
 
And bringing back Cancer Man just seems silly at this point. It's like he's the single person responsible for the entire conspiracy. Where's everyone else?

Ever watch Fringe? I was thinking this reminds me of the 4th season finale with Leonard Nimoy.
 
Yeah, I was really unhappy with the final episode. THIS is how you end it? With the two characters never in the same location, dealing with a viral apocalypse? I don't even remember Reyes as a character and I think it's effed up they made her working for Cancer Man. And bringing back Cancer Man just seems silly at this point. It's like he's the single person responsible for the entire conspiracy. Where's everyone else?
I think he's just the only one left at this point. The rest of the Syndicate got killed off during the series.
 
My point is that there are other people involved beyond him. Even if they just introduced some new guy. He was killed in the finale. A missile blew up in his face. Let it go, Chris Carter :guffaw:

Of course this complaint extends to the original series as well. My favorite era of the series was when the story was complicated by the Well Manicured Man, the First Elder, the Syndicate... it's so boring when it's just Cancer Man.
 
The Smoking Man "I'll tell you a secret. Cigarettes were perfectly healthy until my enemies found out that I needed 2 packs before breakfast to turn on my brain. the entire human race turned out to be collateral damage in on slaphappy 70 year long assassination attempt on me."
 
For a terrifying moment there in the last episode I was afraid it was going to become a remake of "The End of Time", with Cancer Man having infected humanity with his DNA to make them all into clones of himself :eek:
 
Also, you just find out that Cancer Man is (essentially, since we never see anyone else) single-handedly responsible for the literal apocalypse and death of most of humanity... AND YOU LET HIM LIVE? Why in the world didn't they put a bullet in his brain? They just let him go so he can rule his new depopulated planet?!
 
The man has survived being shot and blown up with a missile. At this point shooting him is wasting ammo.

Unless the bullets are made out of magnetite. :biggrin: :nyah:

I'm one of the seemingly few that actually liked the mythology episodes in the X-Files, but that episode was all over the place. I loved the conspiracy theories of the show in the nineties, but now they just seem laughable. Part of it was I was a teenager in the X-Files original run, and maybe that kind of thing was just so awesome for dumb teenage me. Today too many people actually believe in some of the crazier theories that they no longer seem interesting when presented on the X-Files. Now they just seem sad.

Actually they could be interesting, but my biggest problem with "My Struggle II" was the rather awful dialogue. I mean was Chris Carter always this bad? I can forgive a lot if the dialogue is entertaining, even in a ham-fisted or campy way. This just seemed off.

The cliffhanger doesn't bother me. I fully expect that Fox will bring it back for another limited season. I'm just not to sure I care, and I was one who was really excited about this new season.

I liked them back in the day, up to around 1998. Then I didn't give a damn. Things just got too convoluted and confusing. But the new myth arc... what can I say? I don't like parts of it. The moving over to the woo woo conspiracies (even if that's what some of the public believes in) made me roll my eyes. CC's writing just seems so scattered these days. That's the best way I can put it. He could have purple prose back in the day, but I don't think it was nearly as scattered.

So to say something seemed off, would be right on the mark as far as I'm concerned.
 
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The moving over to the woo woo conspiracies (even if that's what some of the public believes in) made me roll my eyes.

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Sto-Vo-Kory said:
The small pox vaccination thing had nothing to do with anti-vaxxers.

It's a story point from 20 years ago on the show, when Mulder and Scully discovered that the Syndicate used the small pox vaccinations to catalogue people and possibly inject other things than just the vaccine into children (from last night's episode, it looks like one of those "other things" was the Spartan virus).
 
They didn't though, it just changed a wee bit.
Yep, exactly. It's basically the same.
The big things that I don't understand at this point are the Black Oil, the faceless rebels, and the shapeshifters. If this was all just humans plotting to take over, then what role did all of those aliens play in everything?
If it had all just been people supposedly working for or with the aliens I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it, but we saw the aliens taking an active, present day role in the story. So they obviously had to have be involved beyond
 
I was never a fan of the mythos. I loved The X-Files for the monsters of the week, which were creative. The mythos always felt and with this new editions still feels like throwing shit on the wall and hoping it sticks. None of the stuff the detectives are talking about makes any sort of common sense. Ok, the Cancer Man team implanted alien DNA but they're cunning enough to have every human being on the Earth don't have anti-bodies to battle the infection by every disease our ancestors have overcome??? This kind of crazy hysteria plotline reminded me of the last 2 episodes of season 2's Millennium.
I wish Chris Carter would let those alien-plots go, and create a satisfying conclusion for Mulder's sister. I saw a conclusion about his sister in an episode of season 7 but that shit sucked ass and the story was unsatisfying. When Mulder looks at photo of his sister on the wall in the crappy movie I Want to Believe, I suspected Carter had changed his mind about that horrible conclusion and maybe this new series I would get what I hoped Mulder would get. Samantha returning to him, ending the series.
By the end of the episode I felt it was a huge waste of time, and I didn't care what happens to Mulder's flu or Scully staring at light... AGAIN.
 
The big things that I don't understand at this point are the Black Oil, the faceless rebels, and the shapeshifters. If this was all just humans plotting to take over, then what role did all of those aliens play in everything?

When it comes to the "faceless" and the shape-shifters, none at all it seems, Earth was known about so the occasional one showed up here, Mulder (as did we the viewer) thought that they were all intertwined and it seems they just weren't. As for the Black oil, maybe that was attempt A and what we saw in My Struggle II was plan B or maybe it was the other way around, remember, the point about the Pox vaccines is plot point from two decades ago!

Yes at somepoint some form of alien interaction happened and maybe, the cabal were conspiring with factions of them, but atleast 90% of the conspiracy was just down to a small group of humans thinking of the greater good.
 
For me the story was ok, I don't mind the conspiracy being changed (but I never followed the show religiously, anyway - I can barely remember half the old mythology). I do think Einstein and Miller where better in this one than the last one, and while there where moments that were just stupid over the top (like Scully completely freaking out without even getting confirmation first), overall it worked ok.

But the one thing that completely tanked the episode is the cliffhanger. I don't hate cliffhangers - some are aboslutely great - but you can't just end the story at a random point and call it a day. This episode resolved literally nothing. That's just terrible writing, especially for a show that doesn't even have a guarantee that it'll be coming back at all.
 
To end the episode like this who seriously believes they won't be back for another batch of episodes?

If aliens really were intent on colonizing the planet then this would be an effective way of overcoming the population rather than using force like so many B grade sci-fi flicks. That actually makes more sense than a clutch of men hellbent on wiping out humanity like Bond villians of the '60s and '70s.

I think it goes without question that Scully will save humanity particularly assuming they return with more episodes. If not then who else would they have to interact with if the rest of the population is wiped out? So the question is what happens to the main characters?

It also stretches credibility that CSM and the Syndicate never really entertained the thought someone like Scully could figure out a way to save everyone. They were so convinced their plans were completely unstoppable.

I liked the episode and it had the right feel to it. But with this story they have reached the highpoint after which most anything else will feel anticlimactic. If Scully saves the day and Mulder survives then the big disaster has been averted and everyone can go home. Or Scully fails and the entire planet is fucked.

Unless they can think of a very clever way to give us more interesting stories after such a highwater event.
 
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