CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
- Thread starter Richard Baker
- Start date
- Status
Mike Wallace wouldn't stay away. *I'm so old.*
Google him, youngsters.For someone with real a real journalistic bent, Axanar (so far) is the gift that keeps on giving. There should be a line outside their door.
Would you have him on? I am questioning it on Twitter, I assume it would be under the same guidelines that you would have peters on (Counsel's permission)
Do we know for sure he contributed $50,000? I believe if he had, he'd crowing about it constantly.
I seriously doubt that ever happened.
Originally, the idea was he'd pay for the whole thing. Alec wrote way back on September 24, 2012 right here on TrekBBS:
Slightly off-topic, but it'll eventually wander back there:
I happened to be thinking about Star Trek: The Experience this morning, so I decided to look back at Trekmovie.com's articles about it. Back when it closed in 2008, Trekmovie was my primary source of Trek news at the time.
Anyway, it was about this time six years ago that news was coming out about the possible re-opening of The Experience in 2010 (anyone still waiting for that to happen?) and that a huge prop/costume auction was being held for all the stuff left over from The Experience. What two names that have been sprinkled ever-so-lightly through this thread should come up?
Alec Peters and Propworx.
In all seriousness, did anyone here get anything from that auction, and what was your experience on the business side of things?
I happened to be thinking about Star Trek: The Experience this morning, so I decided to look back at Trekmovie.com's articles about it. Back when it closed in 2008, Trekmovie was my primary source of Trek news at the time.
Anyway, it was about this time six years ago that news was coming out about the possible re-opening of The Experience in 2010 (anyone still waiting for that to happen?) and that a huge prop/costume auction was being held for all the stuff left over from The Experience. What two names that have been sprinkled ever-so-lightly through this thread should come up?
Alec Peters and Propworx.
In all seriousness, did anyone here get anything from that auction, and what was your experience on the business side of things?
Peters has some serious personality issues. All those people from Phase II committed to helping him bring his vision to life and he tossed them under the bus.
I still don't understand what his worshippers see in him...
Propworx has run a series of auctions many of which featured Trek. The 'experience' auction was one of many. It went bankrupt in 2012 owing MGM $330,000 (thanks, Stargate) but he kept the name and reopened. He has several auctions planned for 2016.
I enjoy Trek screen used items but will not buy from Propworst. There have been numerous allegations that Alec and team bids against potential buyers, to keep prices up. Allegations made by me and by former employees. I would welcome someone in a legal capacity investigating this.
I enjoy Trek screen used items but will not buy from Propworst. There have been numerous allegations that Alec and team bids against potential buyers, to keep prices up. Allegations made by me and by former employees. I would welcome someone in a legal capacity investigating this.
If that's true my God. mr. Peters must really be delusional and somehow thinks he owns Star Trek. If the video in question was a critique/review of sorts, snippets of footage ARE automatically considered 'fair use'. I guess the critique wasn't:
"OMG! Prelude to Axanar is the BEST thing made this century. Alec Peters is a God!"
So Mr. Peters must feel the need to protect his image, eh?
Nah. No one has ever said such a thing.
So it's "Klingon Week" at Axanar according to the last two captain's logs on the Axanar Productions site. A look at everything Klingon that is associated with the movie.
"Klingon Week" begs a question: No matter how much they alter the costumes, the shape of the ships, and the look of the Klingons, if they still call them, "Klingons," and they are a key element of the story -- the central baddies, which was essentially their role in TOS -- then how's that transformative? Their lawyers are trying to dig them out of a hole, but they keep shoveling dirt back in. It always leaves me shaking my head.
"Klingon Week" begs a question: No matter how much they alter the costumes, the shape of the ships, and the look of the Klingons, if they still call them, "Klingons," and they are a key element of the story -- the central baddies, which was essentially their role in TOS -- then how's that transformative? Their lawyers are trying to dig them out of a hole, but they keep shoveling dirt back in. It always leaves me shaking my head.
Alec posted this on the fan film production group:
Alec Peters and Curtis Wayne Lanclos posted in Star Trek Fan Film Productions Group.
Alec Peters
February 3 at 12:58am
I wanted to address my comments in an article published in 1701News. That blog has been attacking Axanar ad nauseum and when they offered to write a "Fair" article about me, they instead turned it into a hit piece, and edited out all the positive things I said about fan films.
I am as big a supporter of fan films as there is. I have actively supported, New Voyages, Intrepid, Valiant, Horizon (which is AMAZING), Saladin, Secret Voyage, Ambush and more. In fact Tommy Kraft of Horizon did the digital compositing for Prelude to Axanar. Eric Henry of Pacific 201 is Axanar's concept artist. We support their efforts whole hardheartedly.
In the article, my comments were taken out of context and what the editor chose to leave out was all the positive things I said about the teams at Star Trek: New Voyages and Star Trek: Continues. I specifically called out James Cawley for his magnificent sets, Mark Edward Lewis for his awesome directing, and Jeff Barklage and Matt Bucy for amazing cinematography. But that was all edited out.
The editor, Michael Hinman, specifically left those comments out to portray me in a negative light and try and sow discord. (this is the same guy who revealed the private address of my godsons on the Axanar Haters Facebook group and who accused me of buying a house with Axanar funds).
You can find positive comments about James Cawley from me all over Facebook and the Internet. I have done a ton for James Cawley and New Voyages, and James has done a ton for me. I got New Voyages their new studio, got "Kitumba" finished, and stepped in to save "The Holiest Thing" shoot when it imploded. James in turn, helped me start Axanar, gave me the use of his sets this past year and more.
Ask any number of fan films and they will tell you how I have been a friend to them and their productions.
My point was that Axanar uses professionals behind and in front of the camera and thus you get a different quality of work than ST: NV or STC. And THAT is why Paramount sees Axanar as a threat.
Alec
Alec Peters and Curtis Wayne Lanclos posted in Star Trek Fan Film Productions Group.
Alec Peters
February 3 at 12:58am
I wanted to address my comments in an article published in 1701News. That blog has been attacking Axanar ad nauseum and when they offered to write a "Fair" article about me, they instead turned it into a hit piece, and edited out all the positive things I said about fan films.
I am as big a supporter of fan films as there is. I have actively supported, New Voyages, Intrepid, Valiant, Horizon (which is AMAZING), Saladin, Secret Voyage, Ambush and more. In fact Tommy Kraft of Horizon did the digital compositing for Prelude to Axanar. Eric Henry of Pacific 201 is Axanar's concept artist. We support their efforts whole hardheartedly.
In the article, my comments were taken out of context and what the editor chose to leave out was all the positive things I said about the teams at Star Trek: New Voyages and Star Trek: Continues. I specifically called out James Cawley for his magnificent sets, Mark Edward Lewis for his awesome directing, and Jeff Barklage and Matt Bucy for amazing cinematography. But that was all edited out.
The editor, Michael Hinman, specifically left those comments out to portray me in a negative light and try and sow discord. (this is the same guy who revealed the private address of my godsons on the Axanar Haters Facebook group and who accused me of buying a house with Axanar funds).
You can find positive comments about James Cawley from me all over Facebook and the Internet. I have done a ton for James Cawley and New Voyages, and James has done a ton for me. I got New Voyages their new studio, got "Kitumba" finished, and stepped in to save "The Holiest Thing" shoot when it imploded. James in turn, helped me start Axanar, gave me the use of his sets this past year and more.
Ask any number of fan films and they will tell you how I have been a friend to them and their productions.
My point was that Axanar uses professionals behind and in front of the camera and thus you get a different quality of work than ST: NV or STC. And THAT is why Paramount sees Axanar as a threat.
Alec
Not at all. An Attorney™ maybe. But not just a simple lawyer.
It's true, folks. No fan film would exist today if it wasn't for Lord Alex.Alec posted this on the fan film production group:
Alec Peters and Curtis Wayne Lanclos posted in Star Trek Fan Film Productions Group.
Alec Peters
February 3 at 12:58am
I wanted to address my comments in an article published in 1701News. That blog has been attacking Axanar ad nauseum and when they offered to write a "Fair" article about me, they instead turned it into a hit piece, and edited out all the positive things I said about fan films.
I am as big a supporter of fan films as there is. I have actively supported, New Voyages, Intrepid, Valiant, Horizon (which is AMAZING), Saladin, Secret Voyage, Ambush and more. In fact Tommy Kraft of Horizon did the digital compositing for Prelude to Axanar. Eric Henry of Pacific 201 is Axanar's concept artist. We support their efforts whole hardheartedly.
In the article, my comments were taken out of context and what the editor chose to leave out was all the positive things I said about the teams at Star Trek: New Voyages and Star Trek: Continues. I specifically called out James Cawley for his magnificent sets, Mark Edward Lewis for his awesome directing, and Jeff Barklage and Matt Bucy for amazing cinematography. But that was all edited out.
The editor, Michael Hinman, specifically left those comments out to portray me in a negative light and try and sow discord. (this is the same guy who revealed the private address of my godsons on the Axanar Haters Facebook group and who accused me of buying a house with Axanar funds).
You can find positive comments about James Cawley from me all over Facebook and the Internet. I have done a ton for James Cawley and New Voyages, and James has done a ton for me. I got New Voyages their new studio, got "Kitumba" finished, and stepped in to save "The Holiest Thing" shoot when it imploded. James in turn, helped me start Axanar, gave me the use of his sets this past year and more.
Ask any number of fan films and they will tell you how I have been a friend to them and their productions.
My point was that Axanar uses professionals behind and in front of the camera and thus you get a different quality of work than ST: NV or STC. And THAT is why Paramount sees Axanar as a threat.
Alec
- Status