Ethical Cannibalism?

[USS Triumphant]

Would you eat a steak made from cloned cells taken from your own body? How about if a celebrity was selling steaks made from their cloned cells? To me, it sounds disgusting... but at the same time, it would be the first FULLY ethical meat in our history, since the animal the meat came from *volunteered* it with no harm done. (I anticipate cloned meat from the cells of animals we normally eat being a thing - I'm just wondering if ethical cannibalism will also be a trend, or if people are pretty much globally disgusted by the idea.)

It has also occurred to me that cloned meat from dolphins or other primates that we can communicate with *might* be fully ethical if they volunteered the cells.

 

[BillJ]

You have waaayyyy too much time on your hands.

 

[Gov Kodos]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1nxaQhsaaw[/yt]

 

[HIjol]

Would you eat a steak made from cloned cells taken from your own body? How about if a celebrity was selling steaks made from their cloned cells? To me, it sounds disgusting... but at the same time, it would be the first FULLY ethical meat in our history, since the animal the meat came from *volunteered* it with no harm done. (I anticipate cloned meat from the cells of animals we normally eat being a thing - I'm just wondering if ethical cannibalism will also be a trend, or if people are pretty much globally disgusted by the idea.)

It has also occurred to me that cloned meat from dolphins or other primates that we can communicate with *might* be fully ethical if they volunteered the cells.

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Um, Interesting concept, Triumphant! That would really be a stretch for some, I bet!


Could have some potential for new advertising, however...

"Ozzie Steaks"...tough but filled with Chiroptera Goodness!

"...from the tender loin of the best!"

Insist on "Kardashian"® "It's the Rump!"

 

[USS Triumphant]

You have waaayyyy too much time on your hands.

I'm on TrekBBS and Facebook at 11PM my time on a Saturday night. I think that *might* be a given.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1nxaQhsaaw

Yes. Exactly. Let's meet the meat.

Insist on "Kardashian"® "It's the Rump!"

It's interesting that you went there, since Kim and Kanye were definitely two of the first three people (the other being Paris Hilton) that I envisioned hopping on this crazy train.

 

[BillJ]

Cloned or not, I'm gonna go on the record as having no interest in eating human meat.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Cloned or not, I'm gonna go on the record as having no interest in eating human meat.

Well how about the other alternatives I mentioned? (Cloned meat of animals we currently eat, or volunteered from dolphins or primates.)

 

[HIjol]

Big Mac taks on a whole new meaning...

The Whopper

(...from the old James Garner, et al. ads for Beef with the tag "Beef, its what's for dinner")

"Trump! he's what's for dinner!"

Butt Steak

"Assholes and Elbows" so much for that Military shout, now we can make soup!

enough?

 

[BillJ]

Cloned or not, I'm gonna go on the record as having no interest in eating human meat.

Well how about the other alternatives I mentioned? (Cloned meat of animals we currently eat, or volunteered from dolphins or primates.)

I can't see being interested in either dolphin or primate meats, cloned or not.

Cows, chickens and other animals? Why not? We should get to the point that we can clone what we need without the entire animal needing to be grown and slaughtered.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C1nxaQhsaaw[/yt]

First thing that came to mind for me, and Peter Davison to boot.

 

[USS Triumphant]

enough?

NEVER! Do... your... worst. (Your wurst? )

 

[HIjol]

College kids would have a renaissance with "Mystery Meat"!

Zombie Movies would need a...rewrite?

Domestic Spats could be described as "Beating Your Meat"...

Ok, that is a line crosser!

 

[Amaris]

Would you eat a steak made from cloned cells taken from your own body? How about if a celebrity was selling steaks made from their cloned cells? To me, it sounds disgusting... but at the same time, it would be the first FULLY ethical meat in our history, since the animal the meat came from *volunteered* it with no harm done. (I anticipate cloned meat from the cells of animals we normally eat being a thing - I'm just wondering if ethical cannibalism will also be a trend, or if people are pretty much globally disgusted by the idea.)

It has also occurred to me that cloned meat from dolphins or other primates that we can communicate with *might* be fully ethical if they volunteered the cells.

I try to be open minded about new things, but eating cloned myself meat would probably be something I avoided entirely. I don't eat much in the way of meat as it is, so abstaining makes the most sense to me. That said, I would probably be delicious.

 

[BigJake]

Part of the adventure game Technobabylon, interestingly enough, features a restaurant that serves cloned human meat. I don't see how this method would avoid kuru, which is one of the big reasons to not be a cannibal.

Cloning of other forms of animal probably will be a major source of meat (and dairy, etc.) in the future, though, for all that this is controversial (and illegal) at present. This process was first acknowledged in 2010 and had to have already been underway for some time at that point. I don't think it will stop.

 

[USS Triumphant]

If the cloned meat is all muscle tissue with no nerve tissue, it *should* be safe from kuru. But yeah, I wouldn't want to be the beta tester on that, either.

 

[HIjol]

That Old Adage, "You Are What You Eat" would need a major workover and maybe a lexicon shift.

Come to think of it, if it if true that you are what you eat, if you ate someone else, would you become them?

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[HIjol]

Would you eat a steak made from cloned cells taken from your own body? How about if a celebrity was selling steaks made from their cloned cells? To me, it sounds disgusting... but at the same time, it would be the first FULLY ethical meat in our history, since the animal the meat came from *volunteered* it with no harm done. (I anticipate cloned meat from the cells of animals we normally eat being a thing - I'm just wondering if ethical cannibalism will also be a trend, or if people are pretty much globally disgusted by the idea.)

It has also occurred to me that cloned meat from dolphins or other primates that we can communicate with *might* be fully ethical if they volunteered the cells.

I try to be open minded about new things, but eating cloned myself meat would probably be something I avoided entirely. I don't eat much in the way of meat as it is, so abstaining makes the most sense to me. That said, I would probably be delicious.

Hmmm...

You just gave me yet another wonderful marketing idea:

The Clone Diet: "Me, Myself, and I"

 

[Triskelion]

See, now you're confusing math with engineering.

Who's to say it's ethical grasping at the straws of Entropy? Dying well could be argued the greater ethos.

With math, things are simpler, but with ethics - now you're applying subjective values to conditions. And that's fine, have ethics - but don't let's convince ourselves we are defining any absolutes here.

We define our own values, nothing more, and if your ethics include not living by the law of the jungle, then others can just as validly embrace that selfsame law.

In fact it can be argued that invalidating human nature is unethical, even as it seeks to improve the human condition. I am suspicious of anything that assumes people are "unethical" for failing to live according to some imposed value system masquerading as fact.

Also, for cultural relativists who adhere to the tenet "Nothing is true, all is permitted," I'll just say, tell that to your own offspring and see if you still believe it.

Yes, have values - just call them what they are.
(This is where Kirk beats Picard as the better captain and human being).

 

[RJDiogenes]

Eating any form of cloned meat would be ethical, human or not, since nobody is harmed-- although there would likely be some debate about cell ownership. In fact, it will probably become the norm, eventually (well, not human, but typical food animals).

The repugnance toward cannibalism is genetic, though, and runs as deep as any other survival instinct, so it probably won't ever go mainstream. Undoubtedly there will be a fetish underground for it, though-- since there already is.

 

[Relayer1]

I'd probably not eat it - not for any ethical reasons, but I'm fairly well imprinted on more conventional foods psychologically (I feel a little 'off' when eating other types of eggs than chickens) and besides which, human apparently tastes like pork which is a meat I just plain don't like.

I'd be happy with cloned beef, lamb, chicken, fish etc. though. More than happy in fact - as a vegetarian of 30 years standing, a real steak sounds good !

As for the ethics of taking a cell sample from an animal without its consent - oh get a f*cking life ! It's not like we were, for exampe, cutting it's throat...