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Favourite Bond films

I think Rupert Everett would've been a good Bond but again his sexuality would've counted against his being cast.

I was just thinking the same thing!

With it being 2015, you think Hollywood would wake up and smell the talent, regardless of sexuality. Especially with people like Ellen and NPH being so popular.
 
Damian Lewis is a rumored frontrunner for the part, along with 38-year-old Tom Hardy and 43-year-old Idris Elba (even though there's absolutely no way for him to play the same version of the character as Daniel Craig because hes Black and Craig is White), so the people who are expecting them to cast young really aren't paying attention to the reality of the situation.
 
And yet, what if they do cast Elba and he is supposed to be the same character Craig is playing? What then? Is fandom going to inexplicably lose its collective mind over such a trivial distinction?
 
Don't be surprised when Daniel Craig does one more movie and none of those actors end up replacing him in five years or so, that's all I'm saying.
 
@ DigificWriterSorry, what do you mean by 'reality of the situation?' Because these so-called front runners are just names plucked from thin air by the tabloids. The same tabloids who 13 years ago were predicting that Colin Salmon, Eric Bana, Colin Farrell and Julian McMahon would be Pierce Brosnan's replacement.

The reality is that Eon want Craig back for another movie but won't start making it for some time. So until or unless he refuses to come back, there is no vacancy and thus no front-runners.
 
^ Seems a bit awkward to hire an American who'd have to fake the accent. Surely there's no shortage of real British actors wanting to do the role?

Quite!

Fair's fair, if a Brit can be Superman an American can be Bond, I'd just want them to be convincing.

TWINE is one of my least favourite Bond films, Goldeneye is 10 times the film, IMO. Denise Richards, the world's least convincing nuclear scientist? (though she's by far the worst Bond girl in the franchise!)

I disagree. Endemic to the character of Bond is that he's literally from England (with a Scottish background) who lives a British lifestyle and fights to save the world but usually on Britain's behalf.

Superman is an alien who crash-landed on earth who then lives in Kansas for 25 years before becoming the character we know. Anyone can play that role.

There's just something more authentic about having Bond being played by a Brit. Only American arrogance would suggest that an American "should" play the character. Just my two cents.

Firstly I'm British, and secondly I didn't say an American "should" play the part, I was making the point that, if the right actor was cast and he happened to be American, I wouldn't lose sleep over it so long as he convinced.

And yes, Supes is an alien, who was brought up from a baby, in American, by Americans, which pretty much makes him AMERICAN irrespective of what it might say in his passport.

Batman wasn't an alien was he?
 
^ Seems a bit awkward to hire an American who'd have to fake the accent. Surely there's no shortage of real British actors wanting to do the role?

Quite!

Fair's fair, if a Brit can be Superman an American can be Bond, I'd just want them to be convincing.

TWINE is one of my least favourite Bond films, Goldeneye is 10 times the film, IMO. Denise Richards, the world's least convincing nuclear scientist? (though she's by far the worst Bond girl in the franchise!)

I disagree. Endemic to the character of Bond is that he's literally from England (with a Scottish background) who lives a British lifestyle and fights to save the world but usually on Britain's behalf.

Superman is an alien who crash-landed on earth who then lives in Kansas for 25 years before becoming the character we know. Anyone can play that role.

There's just something more authentic about having Bond being played by a Brit. Only American arrogance would suggest that an American "should" play the character. Just my two cents.

Brosnan and Lazenby weren't Brits. Irish and Australian respectively.
 
I think the Broccolis will pressure Craig will do one more. I think they're really hoping to do a non-white Bond. But they don't want to do it now because, with all the media hype about it, it will look like they were pressured into doing it, especially if they go Elba.

My first choice for a non-white Bond has been (for a while) Sendhil Ramamurthy. He's got the look and has played a spy before. He's currently recognizable enough that he's one of those "guys who were in that thing," but not a household name. He'd be in his early-mid 40s if it was after one more Craig film.
 
^ Seems a bit awkward to hire an American who'd have to fake the accent. Surely there's no shortage of real British actors wanting to do the role?

Quite!

Fair's fair, if a Brit can be Superman an American can be Bond, I'd just want them to be convincing.

TWINE is one of my least favourite Bond films, Goldeneye is 10 times the film, IMO. Denise Richards, the world's least convincing nuclear scientist? (though she's by far the worst Bond girl in the franchise!)

I disagree. Endemic to the character of Bond is that he's literally from England (with a Scottish background) who lives a British lifestyle and fights to save the world but usually on Britain's behalf.

Superman is an alien who crash-landed on earth who then lives in Kansas for 25 years before becoming the character we know. Anyone can play that role.

There's just something more authentic about having Bond being played by a Brit. Only American arrogance would suggest that an American "should" play the character. Just my two cents.

Brosnan and Lazenby weren't Brits. Irish and Australian respectively.

Yet they are still closer, culturally, to the role than an American would be. That was my central point.
 
@ DigificWriterSorry, what do you mean by 'reality of the situation?

Theyve explicitly defined thw character's age in the new continuity, and have therefore locked themselves into a scenario where they have to cast actors who can believably play the charactetlr at the age at which they've defined him unless they do another clean-slate reboot. That's what I mean by "the reality of the situation".

Even if Craig returns for another movie, they are eventually going to need to replace him, and unless they do another clean-slate reboot, the character at that point will be anywhere from his mid-to-late 40s, and will therefore require the producers to select an actor to play him who looks like he could play that age range convincingly.
 
I was born in '81 so Pierce Brosnan is my Bond. Those four movies are the quintessential Bond to me. Amazing over the top action. Funny puns. The smallest dash of real world realism in an otherwise ridiculous story. I just rewatched Tomorrow Never Dies and World is Not Enough again, and while the villains are not the greatest, they're still chock full of amazing action scenes and cute gags.

Daniel Craig is just not Bond to me, and I really didn't care for his first two movies. Skyfall was the redemptive one for me, and Spectre was pretty good.

But I hope the next iteration of Bond gets back to the slightly sillier days. If I wanted harsh gritty realism I wouldn't be watching James Bond.
 
Pierce Brosnan was also my first Bond but while he looked the part, for some reason, I couldn't take him seriously.

Daniel Craig may be my favourite but after his "darker Bond", I wouldn't mind if they went for a more light-hearted version again.
 
I just don't see an American actor doing an English accent that accurately. (And I seem to remember that James Marsters wasn't exactly convincing in that regard - didn't his real accent pop up a few times?)

The guy who played Wesley did a very good job of the accent.
 
I am also of the generation for whom Brosnan was the first Bond they could see in theaters. But I have always tended to reject contemporary things, so to me, Connery is and always was the real Bond.

Of all the post-Connery Bonds, I enjoy Craig the most. Even though Craig got his start as Bond at an older age than Connery was in "Doctor No," somehow I can see Craig's Bond as an earlier, rougher version of the character as portrayed by Connery.

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I just don't see an American actor doing an English accent that accurately. (And I seem to remember that James Marsters wasn't exactly convincing in that regard - didn't his real accent pop up a few times?)

The guy who played Wesley did a very good job of the accent.

Alexis Denisof, also Alyson Hsnnigan's husband. I wonder if there is any fanfiction of Wesley and Willow getting together because the actors are married?
 
^ Seems a bit awkward to hire an American who'd have to fake the accent. Surely there's no shortage of real British actors wanting to do the role?

Quite!

Fair's fair, if a Brit can be Superman an American can be Bond, I'd just want them to be convincing.

TWINE is one of my least favourite Bond films, Goldeneye is 10 times the film, IMO. Denise Richards, the world's least convincing nuclear scientist? (though she's by far the worst Bond girl in the franchise!)

I disagree. Endemic to the character of Bond is that he's literally from England (with a Scottish background) who lives a British lifestyle and fights to save the world but usually on Britain's behalf.

Superman is an alien who crash-landed on earth who then lives in Kansas for 25 years before becoming the character we know. Anyone can play that role.

There's just something more authentic about having Bond being played by a Brit. Only American arrogance would suggest that an American "should" play the character. Just my two cents.

Brosnan and Lazenby weren't Brits. Irish and Australian respectively.

I wonder if a Canadian would be more acceptable? William Shatner as James Bond!!! :)

@ DigificWriterSorry, what do you mean by 'reality of the situation?

Theyve explicitly defined thw character's age in the new continuity, and have therefore locked themselves into a scenario where they have to cast actors who can believably play the charactetlr at the age at which they've defined him unless they do another clean-slate reboot. That's what I mean by "the reality of the situation".

Even if Craig returns for another movie, they are eventually going to need to replace him, and unless they do another clean-slate reboot, the character at that point will be anywhere from his mid-to-late 40s, and will therefore require the producers to select an actor to play him who looks like he could play that age range convincingly.

You mean how they replaced the late 50s Roger Moore with the early 40s Tim Dalton? :lol:

The next Bond will be in his late thirties, maybe he early forties but I think they may even go younger given these days there's an increasing lag between films. Hard to believe they were churning out a Bond film a year at one point!

I just don't see an American actor doing an English accent that accurately. (And I seem to remember that James Marsters wasn't exactly convincing in that regard - didn't his real accent pop up a few times?)

The guy who played Wesley did a very good job of the accent.

I actually thought he'd have made a good Bond after Brosnan, he spent a lot of time living in the UK and I think a lot of his early work was on British TV (he was in a few Sharpes).

Increasingly there are a lot of actors whose nationality isn't that easily defined, Brosnan is certainly one of them, and so is Fassbender, heck given he was born in Scotland, has rugged good looks and dark hair maybe John Barrowman should be 007 ;)
 
I don't buy the 'closer culturally' thing (sorry guys, I'm too lazy to do multi-quotes this morning). Sean Connery was a working class guy from a rough part of Edinburgh, a former labourer, milkman and coffin polisher. The only thing he had in common with Bond (whose Scottish background was a retcon after Connery was cast) was that he was briefly in the Royal Navy. Brosnan is the son of a nurse and a carpenter from a poor background in Ireland.

If Meryl Streep can play Margaret Thatcher then, subject to the accent issue, an American can play Bond. I'm not saying that they should and I accept that there aren't too many male Meryl Streeps around, but it's all acting. The fact that Brosnan, like Bond, was a widower, didn't make him a better 007 than Craig, IMHO.

As for the age thing, does anyone other than DigificWriter really think that as a result of dialogue in the Craig movies, Bond's age is going to be frozen in aspic forever in future movies? It's a movable feast. They'll pick and choose what they want from those movies and ignore what no longer suits. Part of the point of a recast with Bond is that the incumbent is getting too old to convince and a younger man is needed to carry out the action sequences and bed various women after a few vodka martinis without the need for Viagra.
 
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