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9X01 "The Magician's Apprentice" Grading/Discussion)
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The Bonus Pic so needs to be the album art for the Series 9 soundtrack
Jenna is shorter than a Dalek.
Holy shit. I loved this.
Genesis, Resurrection, Revelation of the Daleks and Stolen Earth shout-outs!
Genesis, Resurrection, Revelation of the Daleks and Stolen Earth shout-outs!
OMG!!
This was awesome.
This was awesome.
I think it draws heavily from the Big Finish audio, Master, which postulates in great detail how friendly they were as kids. RTD claimed that that was inspired by that for his treatment of the Doctor-Master dynamic.
Pretty good episode, and aside from "Flatline," already much better than last season (except the fact that Clara is still Earthbound).
I loved the eeriness of the opening and the imagery of eyed-hands reaching out of the mud. That being said, and I knew it was coming thanks to spoilers, I didn't like the premise of The Doctor finding Davros by accident, leaving him and then returning only to say he'll kill him. The whole "will he, won't he" idea has already been explored years ago (as referenced directly in this episode) and was done far more effectively.
Missy is back, which wasn't so bad and I enjoyed the banter she had with both Clara and The Doctor, but I otherwise found her underutilized. Some great callbacks to previous episode and maybe even the audios (and at least I, Davros wasn't dismissed out of hand as I feared!). Still, it lacked something. Don't know what.
Still an enjoyable episode, but missing something.
I loved the eeriness of the opening and the imagery of eyed-hands reaching out of the mud. That being said, and I knew it was coming thanks to spoilers, I didn't like the premise of The Doctor finding Davros by accident, leaving him and then returning only to say he'll kill him. The whole "will he, won't he" idea has already been explored years ago (as referenced directly in this episode) and was done far more effectively.
Missy is back, which wasn't so bad and I enjoyed the banter she had with both Clara and The Doctor, but I otherwise found her underutilized. Some great callbacks to previous episode and maybe even the audios (and at least I, Davros wasn't dismissed out of hand as I feared!). Still, it lacked something. Don't know what.
Still an enjoyable episode, but missing something.
Great stuff. The only bad things were the utter overindulgence of Capaldi with the guitar stuff and the fact that we know it's all going to be undone by the end of the next episode.
And congratulations to the Daily Mirror for being 100% spot on with their description of the plot months ago.
And congratulations to the Daily Mirror for being 100% spot on with their description of the plot months ago.
I was expecting this to be absolutely awful, so am impressed with its surprising competence (although it is a two-parter, so there is still a high chance of the second half being a flop, as is traditional in post-revival Doctor Who).
Early observations:
1. Young Davros was definitely one of the better child actors in this series (which does not have a very good track record in this department).
2. Missy was less annoying than I expected (though it still irks me that A. The character exists at all and B. She was brought back so soon, spoiling the Brigadier's moment at the end of Death in Heaven).
3. The multitude of different Dalek types seems to be an attempt to make up for wasted opportunities in Asylum.
4. Why don't Dalek victims have corpses anymore?
5. Obviously Clara and Missy are not permanently killed.
6. Obviously the TARDIS will be coming back (We've seen in The Chase that a bunch of Daleks shooting at it has no effect, and if the new Daleks have acquired the ability to destroy it so easily, why go through all that trouble of dropping it into the Crucible's core in Journey's End?).
7. Speaking of Series 4, the same Dalek Supreme prop has been used (or recreated) and so has a Sec-like all-black Dalek, but there are no New Paradigm Daleks in sight - do we take this as confirmation that they are never to be mentioned again?
Early observations:
1. Young Davros was definitely one of the better child actors in this series (which does not have a very good track record in this department).
2. Missy was less annoying than I expected (though it still irks me that A. The character exists at all and B. She was brought back so soon, spoiling the Brigadier's moment at the end of Death in Heaven).
3. The multitude of different Dalek types seems to be an attempt to make up for wasted opportunities in Asylum.
4. Why don't Dalek victims have corpses anymore?
5. Obviously Clara and Missy are not permanently killed.
6. Obviously the TARDIS will be coming back (We've seen in The Chase that a bunch of Daleks shooting at it has no effect, and if the new Daleks have acquired the ability to destroy it so easily, why go through all that trouble of dropping it into the Crucible's core in Journey's End?).
7. Speaking of Series 4, the same Dalek Supreme prop has been used (or recreated) and so has a Sec-like all-black Dalek, but there are no New Paradigm Daleks in sight - do we take this as confirmation that they are never to be mentioned again?
Not bad a bad ep will have to see how part 2 goes.
Loved the line 'The Tardis is the Dog's unmentionables'.
Loved the line 'The Tardis is the Dog's unmentionables'.
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I needed a box of tissues after the nerdgasms this week. Capaldi's now rivalling Tennant for best Doctor IMO.
Good question.
I guess that's what they mean by "MAXIMUM EXTERMINATION!"
Not bad a bad ep will have to see how part 2 goes.
Loved the line the Tardis is the Dog's unmentionables.
I loved Missy calling the Doctor on his BS when Clara was bragging about how indestructible the TARDIS is. Nice to have another Time-Lord/Time-Lady that's just rolling their eyes at the stuff he comes up with. We forget, the Doctor actual got low marks in his classes, he's super smart to us humans, but barely passing in the Academy.
It's extermination turned up to 11
8. The vessel which took Missy, 12 and Clara to Davros' house had an interior very similar to the Type 6/8 shuttlecraft from TNG and VOY.
9. It's odd that, after two years of Clara being the most important figure in the Doctor's whole existence, she's apparently reduced to being a relative nobody (or so says "best friend" Missy).
10. Davros' head looks bigger somehow than in his last appearance. I found this rather distracting.
9. It's odd that, after two years of Clara being the most important figure in the Doctor's whole existence, she's apparently reduced to being a relative nobody (or so says "best friend" Missy).
10. Davros' head looks bigger somehow than in his last appearance. I found this rather distracting.
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