The Flash - Season 1

[sojourner]

If you think about it the one thing Barry tried to keep from the previous time line, getting together with Iris, is the one thing that didn't workout for him. Everything else that he was aware of (the Lt's legs, capturing ww, tsunami) turned out for the better. In direct contrast to Well's advise.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Um, tell that to Dante's hands.

He's never going to play the piano again.

It was an electroplating gun? Could have been bronze of carbonite which sorta looks like gold?

Cisco made a sexist remark about Plastique being beautiful enough that he didn't mind that she was a super villain. So if Lisa Snark sexts him for a bootycall, what's the... Is it professor Ramone or Doctor Ramone? Engineers get masters degrees (or at least that's how Sheldon mocks Howard on Big Bang theory. I suppose there are cross disciplines, levels of being an engineer.) not doctorates, but he's a lot, lot more than an engineer.

 

[JD]

I don't think they've ever given Cisco a title like that. Caitlin has been addressed as Dr. Snow, I believe, but Cisco's just been Mr. Ramone.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Um, tell that to Dante's hands.

He's never going to play the piano again.

It was an electroplating gun? Could have been bronze of carbonite which sorta looks like gold?

Cisco made a sexist remark about Plastique being beautiful enough that he didn't mind that she was a super villain. So if Lisa Snark sexts him for a bootycall, what's the... Is it professor Ramone or Doctor Ramone? Engineers get masters degrees (or at least that's how Sheldon mocks Howard on Big Bang theory. I suppose there are cross disciplines, levels of being an engineer.) not doctorates, but he's a lot, lot more than an engineer.

You can get a doctorate in engineering.

 

[Christopher]

I love it that Barry just wrapped up the whole Weather Wizard matter in, well, a flash, and then moved on to a new story rather than giving us a tiresome time-loop episode. Although I knew he was going to screw things up with Iris the second time around.

The whole thing with Flash making a deal with Captain Cold seemed a little odd to me. Cold agreed (a) to keep the Flash's identity secret and (b) not to kill anyone, and the Flash agreed... to go on stopping his crimes. What exactly did Barry concede? I guess not taking Snart into custody then and there, and maybe in the future too. So from now on it's sort of a sporting competition between them, with CC trying to commit crimes and Flash trying to stop him, as long as nobody gets hurt.

It's a little awkward, sure, but I like it that we're seeing the emergence of the classic Flash Rogues with their odd sense of honor and their symbiotic relationship with the Flash, and their sense of community. It's an interesting foundation to build on. It's hard to see how they'll get this version of Weather Wizard (who was willing to destroy the whole city) to play along with the no-kill Rogues, but I can see Pied Piper fitting in, and we've got the Trickster coming up as a still-unknown quantity.

I'd love to hear Felicity's reaction to Barry's deal. "Wait -- you talked your bad guy into giving up killing? You guys have it easy here in Central."

 

[sojourner]

Um, tell that to Dante's hands.

He's never going to play the piano again.

Which was an entirely new situation unrelated to events from the previous time line. Not an event Barry was aware of.

The real question is "how did Lisa Snart know Cisco would be in that bar?".

 

[Guy Gardener]

The problem is, that Lisa couldn't break into STARLabs in the original timeline which had had it's security tripled each time after the last nine break ins.

Capt. Snart was there in the original time scheming, but without a cold gun he wouldn't have had any way to stop a tidal wave.

Could a cold gun have stopped a tidal wave?

 

[Vendikarr]

The problem is, that Lisa couldn't break into STARLabs in the original timeline which had had it's security tripled each time after the last nine break ins.

Snark was there in the original time scheming, but without a cold gun he wouldn't have had any way to stop a tidal wave.

Could a cold gun have stopped a tidal wave?

Yes, the security is the turning point. Lisa was obviously watching Cisco, but in the first timeline Cisco stayed inside STAR labs and researched Wells. In the altered timeline he went to his brother's birthday party, so Lisa continued following him and waited for her best opportunity to get to him.

It was going to be a bad day for Cisco either way, but at least he walked away from it alive the second time around.

 

[Fist McStrongpunch]

Heh. Snart.

 

[Taylirious]

Easy Glider(MLP) . Wait Golden Glider. Love me some Peyton List.

 

[DEWLine]

If I understood correctly, Snart sees this as a professional and artistic challenge, a path to self-improvement as a career criminal. Am I wrong?

 

[Christopher]

If I understood correctly, Snart sees this as a professional and artistic challenge, a path to self-improvement as a career criminal. Am I wrong?

I don't know about "artistic," but he said he does it for the rush and the challenge.

 

[shapeshifter]

ZZZZZZzzzzzz

<jolts awake> Huh, what - is it over?

Worst outing so far, literally had me snoozing.

 

[CorporalClegg]

ZZZZZZzzzzzz

<jolts awake> Huh, what - is it over?

Worst outing so far, literally had me snoozing.

Totally agree.

This one was as bad as the previous was good.

They pulled a total "Year of Hell" out of their hats.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Voyager played out a year (of Hell) in two episodes. Sure M*A*S*H* did that too following a bet on the world series, but there's no way that Berman was going to let that stand.

The resetting of time in these episodes of Flash (Empty your locker Carlos. Empty it real good.) was not a surprise, and neither was it on Voyager.

 

[DWF]

I don't see the Year Of Hell connection the revelations in last week's Flash ep. was for our sakes and there were no major character revelations in Year Of Year. Fringe pushed a bigger reset button in their finale and there's the one on Smallville but that one still ended with Jonathan Kent's death.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I never understand the knee jerk reaction to criticize the use of the reset button in all cases. Regardless of the context. If you did not like this episode you should not like the previous one either. They were telegraphing the reset that whole episode. In fact much earlier, since it was known Barry would travel in time some in his future. Scenes can be good just for the drama of watching. Not just to see the direct followup. Plus as others have said the events did have an affect on Barry.

I think the reset is the real sign that Barry no longer trusts Wells. He has followed his advice on way too many things. Hopefully the writers address this. Wells talks about time travel not in theory but in detail as from personal experience. Barry should have noticed this. Also his concerns about protecting the time timeline are selfish. Not about preserving the natural change of time. I think not just Barry should see that but us viewers too. We can not assume that things are leading to a direct adaptation of Flashpoint. Barry was able to successfully change history with a much better out come. Even if there are some consequences.

 

[Christopher]

It's kind of creepy to see Wells supporting and comforting Cisco and talking about him as a surrogate son in the same room where he killed Cisco in the previous timeline (and probably at roughly the same moment). A bit of an anticlimax, perhaps, but it drives home how complex Wells is. He really does have affinities for his colleagues, but he'll do anything to achieve his long-term goals, no matter how bad he feels about it.

It'd be great if Barry ultimately manages to stop him, not through force, but by appealing to that compassionate side of him, getting him to realize his goal isn't worth the harm he has to do to the people he cares for. That seems in character for the Flash.

 

[Fist McStrongpunch]

So apparently there's a rumor that the season finale will have Flash travel to the Smallville universe and meet Tom Welling Superman. Let's hope this remains just a rumor.

 

[JD]

I really don't see that happening. I could maybe see some kind of Superman/girl connection to possibly set up the Supergirl show, but I don't see them doing a crossover with a show that's not part of the universe they're setting up here.