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Should Abrams Have Done A Clean Reboot

Gorn. Not enough Gorn. If the next Trek movie doesn't have a heap-load of Gorn, I'mo abandon this li'l fixation and finally watch me some Twilight. :rommie:
You want the videogame. It's got enough nuGorn to last a dozen lifetimes.

Sadly, it's kinda shit to play, but fun for all the Kirk/Spock banter throughout.
 
Gorn. Not enough Gorn. If the next Trek movie doesn't have a heap-load of Gorn, I'mo abandon this li'l fixation and finally watch me some Twilight. :rommie:
You want the videogame. It's got enough nuGorn to last a dozen lifetimes.

Sadly, it's kinda shit to play, but fun for all the Kirk/Spock banter throughout.

Aye....and the drop to a 20 dollar price tag makes it an easier pill to swallow too. :)
 
Gorn. Not enough Gorn. If the next Trek movie doesn't have a heap-load of Gorn, I'mo abandon this li'l fixation and finally watch me some Twilight. :rommie:
You want the videogame. It's got enough nuGorn to last a dozen lifetimes.

Sadly, it's kinda shit to play, but fun for all the Kirk/Spock banter throughout.

Aye....and the drop to a 20 dollar price tag makes it an easier pill to swallow too. :)

$20? I got it for £3.50 on Amazon!:D
 
Should have been a clean reboot. Firstly, because they wouldn't have been able to rely on Nimoy telling the audience how scary Khan was supposed to be, and might have actually made him menacing in his own right, and secondly, because it's obvious a completely different universe with a completely different style, and trying to reconcile it as somehow belonging to the same continuity just doesn't work.

Agreed. NuTrek is so different there was no reason to connect it to the TOS universe. The new universe was supposed to be a alternate universe but based on the TOS universe. Why did nothing from the TOS universe survive? Why is nearly everyone changed? Something should have stayed the same in the NuTrek universe but I am hard pressed to find it.
 
The history before the events of Nero's arrival and murder of Kirk's father remain the same. Spock, from TOS universe survived, and explained to Kirk that in his own timeline, Kirk knew his father. The characters in Star Trek 09 are still in the same stations they served in TOS.

But, folk will be obtuse.
 
I wonder if some people are capable of suspending disbelief at all, and if so how they ever became fans of Trek in the first place.
 
I wonder if some people are capable of suspending disbelief at all, and if so how they ever became fans of Trek in the first place.


But was it to hard for the producers of the film to at least keep some of the original look? They changed nearly every piece f tech in either look or function. If they were going to use the TOS universes past as a jumping point somethings should have looked similar. Only one ship was destroyed so not everything would have changed. Also giving a cadet a captaincy right after his first adventure was ludicrous.
 
There's too damned much rebooting going on everywhere...
Generally, I don't like mindless dogpile votes because they don't add to the discussion and, fortunately, what's right is not determined by mob rule. But having added that to the discussion:

+1

There's too damned much rebooting going on everywhere...
If the result is an entertaining project, what difference does it make?
When it means something new and more creative could have been done instead, it dilutes our cultural potential to go in circles. But if two or more things can be done without sacrificing one, fine.
 
I wonder if some people are capable of suspending disbelief at all, and if so how they ever became fans of Trek in the first place.


But was it to hard for the producers of the film to at least keep some of the original look? They changed nearly every piece f tech in either look or function. If they were going to use the TOS universes past as a jumping point somethings should have looked similar. Only one ship was destroyed so not everything would have changed.
Tell that to the producers of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, where an Enterprise refit somehow completely changed the Klingon species.:wtf:
Also giving a cadet a captaincy right after his first adventure was ludicrous.
Yep, but tell that to the producers of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, where they gave a band of deserter criminals who destroyed the Federation flagship and created an intergalactic incident killing a dozen Klingons ("There will be no peace as long as Kirk lives!") all their old jobs back and a brand new Enterprise to continue their adventures. The heroes get rewarded at the end, just like every other story ever told.
 
I wonder if some people are capable of suspending disbelief at all, and if so how they ever became fans of Trek in the first place.


But was it to hard for the producers of the film to at least keep some of the original look? They changed nearly every piece f tech in either look or function. If they were going to use the TOS universes past as a jumping point somethings should have looked similar. Only one ship was destroyed so not everything would have changed. Also giving a cadet a captaincy right after his first adventure was ludicrous.
Why would they? As I've said before it's the 21st Century, not 1964. Still the basic shapes are there in most tech. Panels with buttons. Big screens. It looks more modern in keeping with where we are in the 21st Century. Still they kept the "flip phone" communicators. Even TMP dumped those for the wrist coms. And of course TNG used the com badge. And the uniforms are clearly an update of TOS.

Do you object to the changes TMP made? The aforementioned wrist coms? The radiation sheild in the transporter room? The completely new uniforms and division colors?
 
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