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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

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There's never going to be an officially R-rated version of a Star Wars film in our lifetimes at all.

Well they could make some of the death scenes more graphic. E.g. I read some where that BobaFetts death in the Sarlacc's was originally more gruesome. Some of the more graphic elements were eliminated.

A blueray version with unreleased scenes that would technically make the film an R I think would be awesome.


But - you very well may be right.
 
:rolleyes:

There's never going to be an officially R-rated version of a Star Wars film in our lifetimes at all.

I agree, and I am thankful for that. There is enough "realism" in my daily life, I don't need to see exactly how much blood sprays out a neck penetrated by a blaster bolt, or how Luke and Leia were conceived.
 
No one wants to see how Luke and Leia were conceived.

One absolute must for a good love scene is the players involved need to have chemistry ... even a little chemistry.
 
I agree, and I am thankful for that. There is enough "realism" in my daily life, I don't need to see exactly how much blood sprays out a neck penetrated by a blaster bolt, or how Luke and Leia were conceived.

The death scenes on the cable TV show The Walking Dead are more realistic than on Star Wars ;)

BTW,there has been some great R rated sci-fi - notably:

Aliens, Blade Runner, District 9 etc.
 
My two stepchildren suffer from night terrors- they have to have room lights on and have screaming panic attacks even then. The original trilogy is fine, but we held off having them watch the prequels for now.
There are some movies I wish did not have one particular scene, because with that one addition we will have a problem. They will grow out of this thing eventually, but for now we do need to keep things simple.
 
I agree, and I am thankful for that. There is enough "realism" in my daily life, I don't need to see exactly how much blood sprays out a neck penetrated by a blaster bolt, or how Luke and Leia were conceived.

The death scenes on the cable TV show The Walking Dead are more realistic than on Star Wars ;)

BTW,there has been some great R rated sci-fi - notably:

Aliens, Blade Runner, District 9 etc.

I don't watch The Walking Dead.

There certainly is a place for R-rated SciFi, but Star Wars doesn't belong in that place.
 
I agree, and I am thankful for that. There is enough "realism" in my daily life, I don't need to see exactly how much blood sprays out a neck penetrated by a blaster bolt, or how Luke and Leia were conceived.

The death scenes on the cable TV show The Walking Dead are more realistic than on Star Wars ;)

BTW,there has been some great R rated sci-fi - notably:

Aliens, Blade Runner, District 9 etc.

I don't watch The Walking Dead.

There certainly is a place for R-rated SciFi, but Star Wars doesn't belong in that place.

Agreed. Despite the occasional dark scene, Star Wars is largely a fantasy space opera and is not beholden to being gritty or more realistic.

There is enough blood and gore out there, including in the fan world with fan art, fiction and the like.

ROTS was PG-13 due to Order 66 and GL wanting the immolation scene. I don't think it is a precedent that the next trilogy needs to follow.
 
There certainly is a place for R-rated SciFi, but Star Wars doesn't belong in that place.


I guess I don't view Star Wars as anything other than teenager + material. But Disney likely wants to make a lot of money off the merchandizing of what ever cute new little creatures show up in this film marketed at and to 7-10 year olds.
 
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There's never going to be an officially R-rated version of a Star Wars film in our lifetimes at all.

This.

I don't mind grittier Star Wars from time to time, but the idea that Lucasfilm either before or after the Disney buyout would release an R-rated film in the franchise is a bit much. Not gonna happen, not with the market the Star Wars films and television series are aimed at.
 
This.

I don't mind grittier Star Wars from time to time, but the idea that Lucasfilm either before or after the Disney buyout would release an R-rated film in the franchise is a bit much. Not gonna happen, not with the market the Star Wars films and television series are aimed at.

I agree cooleddie74 there will never be an officially released R version in the theaters. However, why not release a deleted scenes version on blueray that essentially notches the film up to an R with enhanced violence for adult viewers?

However, in terms of other R material, I also agree that a steamy sex scene in SW wouldn't fly either - deleted scenes or not.

As an aside, I find it funny that some parents are concerned with potential graphic violence in SW but let there kids sit home after school and play Grand Theft Auto which makes many even R rated films seem G like based on the content -anmi or not.
 
I learned to stop listening to parents who whine and complain about movie and television content a long time ago. These are often the same people who lobby Toys 'R' Us stores not to sell Breaking Bad action figures because the sight of a plastic Heisenberg hanging from a peg will make their kids start a meth lab and get involved in dangerous criminal activities. And yes, they're often the very same people who will complain about a partially-exposed breast on a TV show but then not care if their kid is blowing away people left and right in a video game.
 
Regarding the rating, I think I remember reading somewhere (Perhaps on the old "Behind The Magic" CDs which were pretty cool) during the production of Star Wars Lucas did worry that the scene where Luke discovers the remains of his Aunt, Uncle and homestead would lead to an R rating. (The scene, BTW was probably inspired by the John Wayne western The Searchers, which also influenced some of the other films as well).

There is actually a small edit in the British cut of AOTC I believe, during the Jango/Obi-Wan duel on Kamino.


Lucas of course was partially responsible for PG-13, as the first two Indiana Jones films really pushed the boundaries of PG (and Spielberg as well, also in his productions Gremlins and Poltergeist).
 
Owen and Beru's charred corpses are one of the grisliest sights in the entire Saga, that's for sure. That's something you likely would never have seen in any of the Prequels even if George had been inclined to including such scenes, and Anakin's burnt and dismembered body on Mustafar was probably as far as he and the producers were going to go.
 
Then of course there's the EU, which was ocassionally somewhat dark and violence as well (Especially stuff like the New Jedi Order). I haven't read too much of the new canon EU so I'm not sure about Disney's policy with that kind of stuff.
 
Star Wars' story would not really be enhanced or broadened or deepened by R-rated material. Any particularly violent or gory notes in the first six movies were integral parts of the story, and as brought out before, there really was no need to shoot a sex scene to advance the narrative or add depth.
 
Regarding the rating, I think I remember reading somewhere (Perhaps on the old "Behind The Magic" CDs which were pretty cool) during the production of Star Wars Lucas did worry that the scene where Luke discovers the remains of his Aunt, Uncle and homestead would lead to an R rating.

I'm not sure about during production, but the final cut was more the reverse: the MPAA board initially gave Star Wars a G rating, charred bodies, severed arm, tossed choked corpse and all. Lucas and 20th Century Fox didn't want that, for marketing as well as concern about young viewers, and successfully appealed to get a PG. But G and PG were "stronger" back then, as was discussed recently in a different forum about topless scenes in the '78 PG Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
 
I'm about as non-prudish as anybody who posts in these forums but the idea of sex scenes in a Star Wars film "just because" isn't a good excuse to add it. We've gone almost 40 years without random sex thrown into these movies for effect and there's no reason to start now, and we won't anyways - especially now that Disney is running things from the very top.
 
There certainly is a place for R-rated SciFi, but Star Wars doesn't belong in that place.


I guess I don't view Star Wars as anything other than teenager + material. But Disney likely wants to make a lot of money off the merchandizing of what ever cute new little creatures show up in this film marketed at and to 7-10 year olds.

Star Wars films have always been family oriented. I saw the original when I was seven--my brother was five. Our two aunts took us because they didn't want to be seen as adults going to a "kids" film.

ROTJ I saw at thirteen with my mother, aunt, and my ten cousins (and all of us had friends there). It was the most mixed audience of have ever sat with in the cinema. Old and young alike were there to enjoy the film and there was a standing ovation at the end when the Emperor was killed.

The one thing that needs to be intact with the Star Wars films is that they need to be movies the whole family can watch.
 
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