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Which statement by a Trek actor/creator annoyed you the most?

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Have you read been reading an interview with someone involved with Trek, or been watching a "making of" documentary about the show, when one of the people said something that drove you nuts? Something that was utterly inaccurate, or something so asinine that you couldn't believe they actually said it?

It could be anything from reiterating old, disproven urban legends about the show ("The network didn't want a female first officer"), to hideously misremembering plots ("Edith Keeler was in love with Adolph Hitler!"), mean things about costars ("Shatner made them cut this line/scene/subplot/slept with my wife/killed my dog"), or even shattering some of the illusions you originally had ("I was never really a fan of Star Trek, it was mostly just a paycheck").

What quotes make you cringe when you see them?
 
Any time Harlan Ellison opened his mouth about the heavily rewritten script he did the early draft of.

STFU.

:)
 
The self-appointed protectors of "Roddenberry's Vision" have annoyed me far more than anyone involved in the various productions ever could.
 
Sran said:
^Great topic! For me, it's anything said by Marina Sirtis about DS9, which she has referred to as "Deep Sleep 9" time and time again.

--Sran
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That's interesting, because I've found TNG to be sleep-inducing...lol

Has she ever recanted that statement, just out of curiosity...

BillJ said:
The self-appointed protectors of "Roddenberry's Vision" have annoyed me far more than anyone involved in the various productions ever could.
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lol....Roddenberry's vision was to make a successful show and make that $$$$. And, maybe get some hot upcoming actress....but, that's a topic for another thread.

Melakon said:
"Valentine to the fans."
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Not too mention, "We are very, very pleased."
 
Joel_Kirk said:
Sran said:
^Great topic! For me, it's anything said by Marina Sirtis about DS9, which she has referred to as "Deep Sleep 9" time and time again.

--Sran
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That's interesting, because I've found TNG to be sleep-inducing...lol

Has she ever recanted that statement, just out of curiosity...
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No, she usually speaks her mind no matter what anyone thinks. She's a great convention guest that way.

My wife and I saw her and Michael Dorn in San Francisco a year ago, and they went on for a while about "Deep Sleep Nine" and how grim the set was compared to TNG.
 
BillJ said:
The self-appointed protectors of "Roddenberry's Vision" have annoyed me far more than anyone involved in the various productions ever could.
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Melakon said:
"Valentine to the fans."
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1001001 said:
Joel_Kirk said:
Sran said:
^Great topic! For me, it's anything said by Marina Sirtis about DS9, which she has referred to as "Deep Sleep 9" time and time again.

--Sran
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That's interesting, because I've found TNG to be sleep-inducing...lol

Has she ever recanted that statement, just out of curiosity...
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No, she usually speaks her mind no matter what anyone thinks. She's a great convention guest that way.

My wife and I saw her and Michael Dorn in San Francisco a year ago, and they went on for a while about "Deep Sleep Nine" and how grim the set was compared to TNG.
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Yeah, I understand that Sirtis is definitely different then her reserved Deanna Troi character...lol. Come to think of it, I think the Troi in FC was more 'Sirtis' than what we knew of the character in the television series....
 
Yes, she is loud, obnoxious, hilarious, and a great convention guest. She's always good for a few quotes. She and I once had a conversation about how her "big mouth" (her words) gets her in trouble.
 
Sran said:
^Great topic! For me, it's anything said by Marina Sirtis about DS9, which she has referred to as "Deep Sleep 9" time and time again.

--Sran
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Heh. I've never heard that one before, so I get to be annoyed by it for the first time! :lol:

For me, the Joan Collins "Edith Keeler was in love with Hitler" thing drives me nuts. She even repeated it on a Trek anniversary TV special (It think it was for the 30th Anniversary). You'd think that someone there could've disabused her of that notion...
 
1001001 said:
Yes, she is loud, obnoxious, hilarious, and a great convention guest. She's always good for a few quotes. She and I once had a conversation about how her "big mouth" (her words) gets her in trouble.
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And yes, outspoken people like that are the best interviews. I recently got to interview the comic book writer/artist Keith Giffen for BACK ISSUE magazine, and he's the same way. :techman:
 
1001001 said:
My wife and I saw her and Michael Dorn in San Francisco a year ago, and they went on for a while about "Deep Sleep Nine" and how grim the set was compared to TNG.
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One wonders what she'd have said about the enmity between Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan if she'd been a member of the Voyager cast; Ryan herself has never said much about her problems with Mulgrew--save for an interview in which she described an incident in which Mulgrew locked the door to a set because she wanted to get a scene finished.

--Sran
 
I mostly forgive Harlan's gripes about "City" because it started largely in response to the Great Bird's endless myth-making about that episode and the whole "he had my Scotty dealing drugs!" nonsense, which some people parrot to this day.

Nichelle's going on about the "seven stars" of Star Trek always causes me to roll my eyes.
 
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Any time someone new involved in Star Trek says, "I never saw Star Trek in my younger years..."

Yeah, you're so cool.

Melakon said:
Any time Gene Roddenberry took credit for someone else's ideas.
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Do you mind citing some sources?

I'm sure you're right, but I've been on a massive Star Trek reading binge all through 2014, and I've been digging up several interviews on Youtube.

I've YET to find a single solitary interview where Gene takes all the credit. In fact, I'm pretty sure he attributes credit to other writers, even in a general way, in all the interviews I've seen/read/heard.

I'm tired of hearing "Gene Roddenberry took credit for other writers ideas." and not knowing what the hell people are talking about.

Was it a Starlog interview? A Tonight Show interview? Entertainment Tonight? All three? Or different media?

People accuse Roddenberry of doing this ALL THE TIME in this board, but nobody ever attributes it to any single interview, publication or specific instances. It's just a general accusation.

At first, I took it at face value, but the accusation is relentless to the point where I'm now curious to see/read/or listen to it for myself.

Again, I'm sure, you're right, Melakon, and please don't take this as a personal challenge. I just want to be looped in.
 
I don't remember the specific interview but there were a few where Patrick Stewart said basically "It's a job" when asked how it was playing Captain Picard and implied that it wasn't real acting compared to the Shakespeare and other classical stuff he did. Just came off to me as another snobby actor not appreciating how big they hit it and how much people enjoyed them and just wanted to moan about how tough it was doing something that was them making millions of dollars and having millions of fans and opportunities most of only dream of. Just like Nimoy did with Spock for years, Sean Connery has done endlessly about James Bond and Harrison Ford has done with Han Solo. Yet in the end it always seems like they're able to put their bitterness aside when the studios come calling with a big check in hand.

Roddenberry's two most annoying quotes were when he said that Star Trek was never meant to be a show about conflict using force and the Federation was never meant to be a military organization and was supposed to be like NASA or National Geographic and all about exploration.

Bullshit there was conflict that involved the use of force all the time on TOS, hell they even created specific ENEMIES like the Klingons so the Federation would have an adversary they could have war like encounters.

And I could probably list at least 25 ways that starfleet is a direct parallel to the military, mostly the United States Navy, which last time I checked was a very prominent military organization.

He only started pulling this "Non military" card when he got kicked out of the decision making loop after TMP and TWOK was a hit emphasizing the military side of starfleet. He made it military and confrontational in nature right from the start, yes it had exploration and more cerebral elements too, but he knew people wouldn't turn in every week if all the Enterprise was go to a new planet every episode and there wasn't conflict/action on a regular basis.

He only changed his tune when he went too cerebral for TMP and it was an expensive critical failure and Bennett and Meyer were able to make a more loved movie that centered around conflict and action. It was only then he started this "You ruined my vision" BS because he was pissed he didn't think of it first and it got his creative control taken away from him by Paramount.

I also can't stand how for seemingly every movie after TWOK he kept pressing for one where they went back in time because something happened where JFK wasn't assissnated and if screwed up the future big time some how, so Spock ends up pulling the trigger to put everything right. First it's just a dumb and tasteless idea in general and second it's a direct ripoff of City on the Edge of Forever so it wasn't even original. But supposedly he kept pushing for it almost until he died.
 
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