Zack Snyder will direct SUPERMAN

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  1. Lapis Exilis

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    Oy - I don't think I will ever understand the Chris Reeve fetish. He was not the end-all, be-all of live action interpretations of Superman.

    Ever read Birthright? It condenses the essentials of the origin down to one page, then follows Clark as he travels the world, working out his journalistic destiny. It then explores his first year at the Daily Planet in some detail and does a really nice wrap around with Jor-El and Lara. It's not a brilliant book, but it's a nice, solid look at Superman's early years.
     
  2. JacksonArcher

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    I always thought Birthright was a great example about how to approach a contemporary Superman movie that didn't re-do the origins but sort of skimmed them.
     
  3. Obiwanshinobi

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    Origins could be summed up with another opening title sequence, ala Watchmen. It's cliche but its effective and gets it out of the way.
     
  4. Admiral_Young

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    I've read both "Birthright" and "All-Star Superman" which condenses the Kryptonian origin down to a splash page. Again though if it's Clark traveling the world we wouldn't see Krypton unless it was through some kind of flashback sequence. To use "Batman Begins" again no one had a problem rehashing Bruce's origins, which everyone is familiar with and it was told in a relatively new way for a general audience to understand. I could see the Superman film going in a similar direction.
     
  5. JoeZhang

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    I don't see the problems with an origins film - the last one was 32 years ago - what's wrong with this generation having their Superman?
     
  6. JacksonArcher

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    I think if Nolan and Goyer are creative, which they are, they can do a modern take on the origin story that is still relevant and fresh.
     
  7. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Well, the thing is that the so-called "origin story" is the quintessential Superman story. That is why variations of it have played out not only in movies but dozens of times in the comics, on television from The Adventures Of Superman to Smallville, and even in novels.
     
  8. Gojira

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    I think the problem is that we have had too many origin stories in the last 10 years or so. Everyone that is a fan of Superman knows his origins I don't really want to see another origin story about him.

    If they do make an origin story I will see it and won't complain...I just prefer not to have one.
     
  9. Jetfire

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    The origin story is the Superman story...it may not have to dominate a whole picture...but should be part of the reboot. Even if it takes place in the form of flash backs.
     
  10. Aragorn

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    Okay, I'll bite. What ground is Smallville covering exactly? :lol:
     
  11. Captaindemotion

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    But while we'd seen the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents in flashback in Tim Burton's movie and in Batman Forever, we'd never seen it properly told, nor had we seen why Bruce decided to become the Batman, how he trained, how he got his toys & gadgets. Similarly, Casino Royale got away with telling the origins of another well-established franchise hero because we'd never seen Bond's early days or first mission.

    Fair enough, I'm from a generation that saw Superman The Movie in the cinemas, so I'm biased. But I just don't think there's any great need to re-tell his origins. There's been that movie, there's been Smallville, there's even been a brief recap and flashback sequence in Returns. Do we really need it told again?
     
  12. Gojira

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    I wouldn't mind a portion of the movie being devoted to his origin, even in flashback. I just don't want them spending too much time focusing on Krypton and then his childhood.

    But if the movie depicts this as Superman's first adventure in this new universe or it is his first appearance to mankind, I'm alright with that.
     
  13. JoeZhang

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    Superman comics are read by about 50,000 hardcore fans (I'm one of them) and Smallville doesn't actually seem to have Superman in it (at least not of the type the film will feature).
     
  14. drychlick

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    As long as there a superman movie I don't care who is directing it love dr:)
     
  15. Admiral_Young

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    I think we're all still jumping to conclusions with the plot...which hasn't been confirmed btw.
     
  16. Captaindemotion

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    Shaky? :lol:
     
  17. Obiwanshinobi

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    Be that as it may, what's new?
     
  18. Nowhere Man

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    I think a simple way to sum up the origin is with a small paragraph. "Rocketed to Earth from the planet Krypton....ect."Like they used to do in the old cartoons. Then if Braniac is involved show his ship barrelling out into space right as Krypton explodes, right behind Clark's ship. Similar to Zod in the phantom zone. There's your opening sequence and origin wrapped up in the first 5-10 minutes. Another aproach would be Spiderman style and just show the opening credits with the comic book pages unfolding. It could show a quick update of events leading up to wherever they start the story. Bam, the origin agian is sewn up nice and tight, no muss, no fuss. I really don't think anyone needs to see half of the movie devoted to the origin. Even non Superman fans have a vauge idea that Supes is an alien, they may not know where he comes from or his fathers name, but they know enough. I say that because my wife is a perfect example, she's Russian and has no interest in comics at all, but she knew who Superman was and knew he came from another planet. Now that was when we first met, now a day's she loves Bat boy and all Nolan films(Inception is her favorite) and she likes Ironman and last year she even watched Star Trek and liked it. This is someone who hates Star Trek, even though she's never watched one episode. Women, there crazy. My point bieng, unless you've been living under a rock for the paST 75 years, you know Superman.
     
  19. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Exactly so.
     
  20. Captaindemotion

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    Hollywood Insider is reporting that Noah Bean, from Damages, and an unnamed actor from True Blood are to audition for the main role.

    http://www.whatsplaying.com.au/2010/10/film-news-hollywood-insider-61010/

    Bean looks almost exactly like Routh, IMHO and would be a perfect choice if this were a follow up to Returns but Brandon wasn't returning. As it's not, I wonder what the point in auditioning him would be - most casual viewers would probably think it's the same guy.

    As for the True Blood actor ... hmmm. Ryan Kwanten? In great shape but too small and lithe - more of a Daredevil physique. Stephen Moyer? Probably too old. Alexander Skaarsgard? Well, dye his hair black and he's basically perfect. That would be a nice consolation for him after losing the Thor role.
     

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