Your pick for most egregious SYNDICATION CUT for a Trek Series.

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  1. Mutara Nebula 1967

    Mutara Nebula 1967 Captain Captain

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    My vote hands down will always go to ST: TNG-A FIST FULL OF DATAS.

    I hope it was only my local station cutting this out but it gets me really annoyed when at the end of the episode-they cut to commercial BEFORE you see the ENTERPRISE "Flying off into the Sunset"-it was a beautiful & witty shot complete with cowboy music...the payoff to the entire episode and when its wasn't there I was livid.
     
  2. Odona Kirk

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    When the Sci-Fi Channel used to show TOS, there were some pretty egregious cuts in episodes. For example, "Day of the Dove" had Dr. McCoy apologizing for something we never even saw.
     
  3. CorporalClegg

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    Has there been one that wasn't egregious?
     
  4. DGCatAniSiri

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    Isn't the comment about Vulcans bluffing cut from 'The Doomsday Machine' these days? That's pretty bad, in my opinion
     
  5. nx1701g

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    If I recall correctly Sci-Fi does that as well.
     
  6. USS Triumphant

    USS Triumphant Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It isn't a syndication cut, but it is Trek-related, and pretty egregious:

    Most of the time when they play "Heart and Soul" by T'Pau on the radio, they play the stupid "radio edit" that cuts out a whole EIGHT LINES (sixteen, if you count both vocal parts)!

    No part of that song should ever be cut. Period.
     
  7. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Preach it, brother.. :(
     
  8. crohnie

    crohnie Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Spike was actually cutting lines from scenes of Voyager for the sake of more commercial time.
     
  9. erastus25

    erastus25 Commodore Commodore

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    More old skool, I always thought the cutting of the touching Spock/McCoy in prison moment from Bread and Circuses was lame.

    And, no, I'm not talking about an underground porn. Get your mind out of the gutter.
     
  10. ClayinCA

    ClayinCA Commodore Commodore

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    They cut that scene in "Bread and Circuses"?!? That's one of my favourite scenes in Star Trek! :scream:

    Makes me glad I haven't watched the show in syndication for awhile...!
     
  11. Forbin

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    Conscience of the King. For decades in syndication, the phaser overload scene was cut completely. The story cut directly to Kirk storming into Coridian's quarters angrily saying "A moment ago we narrowly avoided an explosion that would have taken out several decks of this ship!"

    Now luckily for me I'm old enough to have seen the original airing, so I knew what was going on. But anybody who started watching the show in syndication in the 70s must have been :wtf: until Paramount released the eps on VHS.
     
  12. Saito S

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    Not just Voyager, but TNG also. I remember in "A Fistful of Datas", near the very beginning, they cut several lines from Picard's exchange with Worf in his quarters.

    This isn't a "syndication cut", per se, but one time, years ago, some station or other was showing The Undiscovered Country. Now, Gorkon's ship gets hit by two torps in the actual movie; both of them are seen hitting the ship on-screen. This TV station cut the second torpedo strike entirely, creating additional confusion that wasn't supposed to be there for anyone who hadn't seen the full movie when Spock says "Captain, according to our data banks, we have fired. Twice." :rolleyes:

    One of the worst cuts is from DS9's pilot episode, for the conversion to a two-parter. When the Cardassian warships are threatening to attack, O'Brien creates the illusion of a heavily armed station, with 5000 photon torpedoes and integrated phaser banks on every level. Of course, it's not true, and the Cardies do suspect that it's a trick. But 3 years later, in "The Way of the Warrior," when the Klingon fleet is poised to attack the station, they scan it and read 5000 torps and integrated phasers, only this time, it's all real. Martok scoffs at the readings, saying it's "an illusion created by thoron fields and duranium shadows!" Which is exactly what it WAS in "Emissary", but no longer. The cut from the pilot ep was a shame, because that moment in WotW was made much cooler by that connection all the way back to a moment at the very beginning of the series.
     
  13. Temis the Vorta

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    They're just trying to protect our innocent minds from all that slash subtext. :rommie:
     
  14. erastus25

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    Yeah...a lot of people feel that way. But it gets cut quite often because it's not really essential to the episode's plot.

    Whoa! I never noticed that! That's a really nice touch - and proves Martok reads his tactical reports.
     
  15. tnpir4002

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    My pick is from Emissary: they cut out all the stuff of O'Brien taking one last look around the Enterprise-D (one scene on the bridge and one in the transporter room) for time. It's one of my favorite character moments of that episode and it's upsetting that they cut it.
     
  16. Saito S

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    Yeah, I thought it was really cool, especially the way Martok proclaimed that it must be an illusion created using the exact same methods that O'Brien used back in Emissary, when it was an illusion. Then, a few minutes later, when the Klingon fleet attacks, we find out that, as Sisko put it, "It's no illusion." The whole thing provided a nice sense of closure, and seeing DS9's new defensive systems in action was one of the greatest "Oh HOLY &$#%!!" moments in all of Trek. :D
    I forgot about that! So "Emissary" actually has TWO rather unfortunate cuts. Man, what were they thinking! :lol:
     
  17. alpha_leonis

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    In TOS' "The Deadly Years," which I watched about 5 years ago when Sci-Fi re-ran the series (first time I'd seen the episode in years), they cut out the scene where the incompetent Commodore orders the Enterprise to cut across a section of Romulan space to get to their destination faster. (Thereby giving newly-restored Young-Kirk the chance to storm back onto the bridge and save the day with his Corbomite bluff.)

    Not remembering the reason for the foray into Romulan space, I was confused for a while. I think it was TrekBBS that I came to for an answer to my confusion ... !!!
     
  18. Cakes488

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    I can't recall any syndication cuts that have adversely effected the story...the cuts should be minor and not noticed....WELL...this was the first and last time I noticed a syndication cut. TVLand when they first started airing Trek are just greedy greedy people...and me and a few other posters even timed how many commercials they had each night and slowly but surely the time was getting longer and longer...the last half hour was pretty much just commercials ugh. Anyway, they completely cut out Miramanee's whole pregnancy thing in the Paradise Syndrome......what the hell is the story with that?? Cutting out a whole subplot seems bizarre...reaction shots etc...OK but a sub plot that any Trek fan would clearly remember is just a flagrant omission!
     
  19. kissthestar

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    Seems the tendency is to cut quiet, character development moments, while leaving in boring, repetitive fight scenes.
     
  20. TheGodBen

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    It's not a syndication cut, but on British TV stations they cut O'Brien shouting "Bollocks!" in Time's Orphan. Very upsetting. :(
     

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