Your own personal continuity

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Lon Suder, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. T'Girl

    T'Girl Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The universe that Spock and Nero came from was also a parallel/alternate one.

    Romulas is live and well and continue to make mischief for our heroes.

    :)
     
  2. Bry_Sinclair

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    Yup :rommie:

    Also either this alternate universe or the JJTrek one was where the events of ENT took place, therefore what happened there had no impact on the Prime Universe.
     
  3. T'Girl

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    If for no other reason than to completely get rid of the ridiculous idea that Jonathon Archer will one day be the President of the prime universe Federation government.

    I mean American has had some boobs in the oval office, but come on... Archer?

    :)
     
  4. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    And also someone that incompetent could ever actually command anything more than a shuttlecraft :lol:
     
  5. AgentCoop

    AgentCoop Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    In my headcanon, the Enterprise-E and it's crew were heavily involved in the Dominion War.
     
  6. Sybok

    Sybok Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    -the TMP enterprise actually looks like its phase II original design instead of an almost completely different class that we see, as opposed to the on screen 1701-a which is a new build.

    -starfleet was demilitarized and downsized into an nasa type thing after star trek vi, thats why its so different by picards time (like losing the military red tunics for space pajamas)

    -a lot of enterprise is apocryphal (grrrr 22nd century ferengi), though i accept some of the characters and the vulcan arc

    -all the reliants and excelsiors we see in the dominion wars are from mothballs that were retired at the end of the klingon-fed cold war that were pressed back into service as drones

    -enterprise-e was sent doing bitch work far away from the dominion war front along with some of the nicer fed ships we never or rarely see on DS9 (prometheus, nebulas, intrepids, sovereigns) as an emergency reserve or so in case of defeat picard could carry on a resistance

    -the federation, and united earth in particular, is actually a despotic totalitarian junta (here is the proof http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=1959245 )


    -and finally..... the mirror universe is actually our universe
     
  7. TheSubCommander

    TheSubCommander Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    1. The 1701-A was originally the Yorktown.
    2. Miri's planet, Miramanee's planet, Omega IV, 892 IV, and other examples are not Hodgkins Law of Parallel Development, but examples of the Preservers transplanting selected Earth populations to see how differently they would develop from Earth, and the Alien race seen in The Chase were the preservers
    3. Star Trek 2009 and STID are in their own separate universe and timeline
    4. Events in Enterprise Are canon, except TATV.
    5. Scotty thinking Kirk rescued him at first in Relics was just him delirious after spending 70 years in a transporter loop
    6. Kirk still lives in the Nexus.
    7. Admiral Riker still gets his shot at the Enterprise-D as his own flagship: as admiral, he finds out that the Enterprise-D saucer secion was salvaged and relocated to Surplus Depot Z15, along with the star drive of another Galaxy class ship wrecked during the Dominion war. He commissions that the two be overhauled and rebuilt, using other parts from Surplus Depot Z15. The result is the AGT future Enterprise-D. To avoid confusion with the officially commissioned Enterprise-E, which was still in service at that time, the rebuilt and refitted Enterprise-D is not an official service ship, but listed with a special status as a personal diplomatic ship: Riker's flagship.
     
  8. Robert Comsol

    Robert Comsol Commodore Commodore

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    Replace "Borg" with "retroactive contnuity" and there you go:

    "We've made too many compromises already. Too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again! The line must be drawn here, ...this far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done." ;)

    Bob
     
  9. Vandervecken

    Vandervecken Captain Captain

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    In my head, sometimes I include some elements (but not all, not even close) of Larry Niven's Known Space:

    Section 31 is actually run at its inner core by a cabal of Pak Protectors of human-breeder stock (just as the ARM was in Known Space). Being the master super-chess-players they are, always about a 1000 steps in front of everyone else, they predicted the Dominion would simply capitulate after the Founders were infected. The neck crawly invaders from "Conspiracy" were really bioengineered tools of Sec 31/the Pak cabal, designed to test non-Pak Starfleet response. Due to rejuvenating effects of the Nexus, Kirk could make the transformation to Pak Protector, is alive, and is now a Protector and part of this cabal.


    The Kzinti are around (as shown on 1 or 2 starmaps, and of course in "The Slaver Weapon"), but relatively weak compared, say, to the Klingons. They are aligned with the Klingons.

    The Borg are a weapon designed by the Tnuctipun against the Slavers/Thrintun, over 2 billion years ago but never used; the founding Borg were let loose from stasis/activated accidentally a very long time after "Suicide Night." For this reason--bio/mechanical design by those master technologists/biotechnologists, the Tnuctipun--the Borg are extremely difficult for even Pak-human adult to predict.
     
  10. FredH

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    - While for the most part perfectly benevolent and multispecies, the Federation is at some level the Earth Human Empire, certainly culturally. This will change dramatically in future centuries as entire species begin to meld, culturally and genetically, and glass ceilings become impossible to maintain, and finally meaningless. (And as something happens that causes Earth itself to change or be replaced.)

    - 2218 was a "recontact" between the Federation and the Klingons, relations having become cold and distant for decades at that point. It was an attempt at a diplomatic reset, which ultimately failed.

    - Most Starfleet captains go through their entire careers never having heard of Section 31.

    - The anbo-jyutsu community is a weird martial-arts subculture, mocked by pretty much all other martial artists.

    - Mainstream Earth culture experienced a strange cultural drift towards masculinism in the 2250s and 2260s, which was reflected in Starfleet, but soon reversed itself.

    - There will eventually be a crisis within Starfleet over differing interpretations of the Prime Directive (i.e. letting planets fry, or not).

    - Whether or not she knew it, Hoshi Sato was an Augment.

    - "These Are the Voyages" happened as portrayed, in the year when it was said to be taking place, though Trip was clearly involved in something not unlike what happened in the books.

    - During the 2220s and 2230s, Starfleet experimented with a wave of much larger starships. This was ultimately deemed inefficient in terms of resources and power.

    - Yes, there were additional 5-year missions after TMP and TFF.

    - Exclesior tested transwarp, and its crew turned into lizards, hence transwarp's abandonment.
     
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  11. T'Girl

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    Replace "retroactive continuity" with "Walmart."

    They invade our space and we fall back.
    They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back.

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    Even though Kirk was drinking with the Klingons and making diplomatic small talk with them at the end of TFF, he still didn't trust their species, hadn't forgotten their previous actions, nor forgave them for the murder of his son at the hands of one of their officers.

    :)

    :)
     
  12. drt

    drt Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    My personal continuities:

    1. Star Trek original/Animated series universe
    2. TMP universe (where universe #1 may have been an over-dramatized version of some of the same events)
    3. Bennett/Meyer universe (for fun imagine episodes of the original series with the crew wearing the maroon Hornblower uniforms)
    4. Berman universe (TNG/DS9/VOY)
    5. Abrams universe (I think ENT works better as a prequel to this than the Bermanverse)
     
  13. Smellincoffee

    Smellincoffee Commodore Commodore

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    Michael Jan Friedman's Starfleet: Year 1 is how it happened.

    Many other Starfleet ships have personnel specially trained and equipped for dangerous away missions, instead of sending the entire senior staff plus cannon fodder.
     
  14. T'Girl

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    I feel that Captain Kirk wasn't just the commander of the transport vessel that took investigation teams to destinations, he was the overall mission commander.

    He was leading the missions.

    So he went down, with the best science officer, the best medical doctor available, sometime some specialist and a few "bodyguards."

    If Kirk were killed, Sulu would take the ship to the closest starbase and acquire a new commander, who would also lead missions down on to planets.

    Kirk wasn't just a bus driver.

    :)
     
  15. Bry_Sinclair

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    Couldn't agree more!
     
  16. T'Girl

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    ^ Might need to reread that.



    :)
     
  17. FredH

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    Had an idea like that years ago: The command crew, most of whom serve as department heads, are themselves the ship's primary exploration team. Their departments and the crew as a whole serve as support staff and physical auxiliaries, but the command crew are the main "astronauts" intended to do the most important planetside work.

    It doesn't make military sense, of course; but hey, neither does plenty on Trek anyway.
     
  18. Annorax849

    Annorax849 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    The NX-01 didn't go to Kronos in Broken Bow, but a distant Klingon outpost where the Chancellor happened to be visiting.
     
  19. The Lensman

    The Lensman Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The original 3 seasons of Star Trek exist in it's own universe.

    Everything else exists, more or less, in the same universe. The original is still my fave, but there's just no way to reconcile the style with everything else. It's especially noticeable in TMP, Relics, TaT.

    The JJverse is it's own universe, as it should've been.
     
  20. Gojira

    Gojira Commodore Commodore

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    Another personal continuity is that Star Trek Nemesis never happened. While I like to think Riker did Captain the USS Titan, but Data did not die.