Your Love For Amok Time !!!

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  1. Forbin

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    I said out, dammit!
    I kinda did. I even got so annoyed once that I said "Act like an adult and I'll call you a woman." (and ran like hell).
     
  2. Warped9

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    We have to remember that Spock's betrothal to T'pring was an arranged one, an agreement between their parents. In that situation Spock reveals he really doesn't have genuine feeling for T'pring other than a sense of responsibility. When his fever had passed and T'pring's character revealed it's easy to see how he'd have no further interest in her.

    Interesting that Sarek managed to break tradition to marry Amanda, a human woman he clearly loved. And yet Sarek is pissed for decades because his son didn't follow his wishes and adhere to expectations. I'm quite sure Sarek raised a few eyebrows when he chose to marry an Earth woman.
     
  3. T'Girl

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    Do as I say ... not as I do.

    Given the male oriented, male dominated, culture of Starfleet of that time period, a culture that Spock had been living in for years, for Spock to refer to T'Pring as "the girl" seem quite likely.

    Why would Spock be referring to T'Pring in a respectful way?

    I seem to get a lot of mileage out of "Dear."

    :)
     
  4. sonak

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    it's funny, I read that too quickly and saw it as Gerald Ford's contribution to "Amok Time."
     
  5. T'Preea

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    I loved that bit. That episode was a good look into who Spock truly is as a being. I've watched it several times and it never gets old.
     
  6. Anji

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    Never thought of it but again you're right, Warped9. Astute observation!

    Everything worked right in that episode. Yeah, you really did feel the heat on Vulcan when you watched that didn't you? I did!

    The writing was beyond excellent and plotting was was good. Pacing did slow down a little prior to and during the battle scene...my guess was to make it last the full 25 minutes.

    The actors did seem a bit confused during the Vulcan scenes...maybe the action was a bit too alien for them, but Nimoy was on his game and definately in the zone.

    The look on Nimoy's (and Maj's) face were priceless.

    I can watch it over and over and over and over...
     
  7. Redfern

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    Of course, it had the benefit of being written by one of the "Grand Masters" of sciene fiction, Theodore Sturgeon. How could not have been excellent?

    Sincerely,

    Bill
     
  8. mJanette

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    Leonard as Spock is my only love.
    Too bad I was born too late. But he's still number one for me.
     
  9. sbk1234

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    I always figured that Sarek was betrothed to someone first, then probably widowed, and was then free to marry Amanda. The events in Star Trek V would actually go to support this idea.
     
  10. UnknownSample

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    Okay, conceded. I knew I had some memory/concentration impairment, but this alarms me, that I didn't put that together for myself. I wonder why the "action" seemed so much more blatant to me with Amok Time, then. Maybe it's because the whole episode revolves around the fight, rather than its being just one of several events in the plot. Maybe it's because it was the first appearance of that famous fight music...
     
  11. jayrath

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    He actually said "tha'gh'erll," which as we all know is Vulcan for "bondmate who spurned me for a fellow officer."
     
  12. T'Girl

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    Uhura: "She lovely Mr Spock, who is she?"

    Spock: "She is T'ramp ... (**sigh**) my wife."

    :)
     
  13. T'Preea

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    ^Clever! :guffaw:
     
  14. Redfern

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    Aww, come on, surely she wasn't that bad?

    Rest of fandom in a thundering chorus, "YES! Yes, she was!!!"

    Hmmm, maybe you're right. ;)

    (Was testing an on-line friend's makeup textures and decided to depict an even more provocative T'Pring.)

    Sincerely,

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  15. Ian Keldon

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    I can see your point, but I don't think those conditions are met by this episode. The duel is an integral part of the episode, as it showcases an aspect of Vulcan culture and is not presented as gratuitous or in any way "tacked on" just for action value.
     
  16. Ian Keldon

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    So good it went on to spawn an entire crop of imitators and passed into the ranks of "trope"... :)
     
  17. Ian Keldon

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    IIRC they did indeed.

    And T'pring was
    the "big bad" behind the secessionist movement
    in Diane Duane's excellent novel "Spock's World"
     
  18. Ian Keldon

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    A fact that was made abundantly clear to Spock repeatedly as a child, as evidenced in "Yesteryear" as well as JJ's movie.
     
  19. Captain Rob

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    I think that if T'pring looked like that; Kirk would have knocked Spock out cold before the first gong's echo had faded.
     
  20. Sky

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    Oh yes. She finally noticed that having was not as pleasing as wanting; it was illogical but often true.

    (Spock's World is brilliant, by the way.)
     

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