Your favourite TrekLit ships?

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by King Daniel Beyond, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. KRAD

    KRAD Keith R.A. DeCandido Admiral

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    Belatedly answering (sorry, under deadline): yes, the schematics for the Chancellor-class vessels in the Klingon Defense Force (of which the I.K.S. Gorkon is one) are in the back of The Brave and the Bold Book 2, as designed by Tammy Love Larrabee.
     
  2. Christopher

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    I think JD's question is whether the illustrations from TB&TB are also available in an online form, so he can get an advance look before buying the books.
     
  3. KRAD

    KRAD Keith R.A. DeCandido Admiral

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    ^ Nope. You want the specs, you gotta buy the book.
     
  4. Christopher

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    ^Or borrow it from your library, if they have it.
     
  5. JD

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    Ok, I was just curious. I do plan on reading it anyways, so I'm happy waiting.
     
  6. Caleuche

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    I would like to thank you for alerting me to this, but having just seen it at memory beta, I think I won't. Who out of interest designed the Aventine? Was a competion like the Titan? I like the Titan (I had problems with the sensor pod at first, but the 3D images of the Titan proved it worked. I'm hoping the 3D images will rid me of the dislike I currently have for Ezris flying cheesewedge.)

    Personally the ships I tend to like are the most are the none Starfleet ones. At the end of the day, USS Defiant aside all Starfleet vessels tended to look much the same and I think the lack of cilivan ships in Star Trek over the years said something about the creativity that was occuring. I think hearing a bit more about the other ships in the Federation would give the Trekverse a much more real and lived in feel. Which is a rambling way of asking 'when are we going to see what Paris one/Federation one/Starfleet one looks like?

    That said the Enterprise J in the Ships of the Line calender was pretty awesome.
     
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  7. Christopher

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    Mark Rademaker, who posts here as Clawhammer.

    No, he was commissioned to do it, as with the designers of Starbase 47/Vanguard and the Gorkon.
     
  8. Sci

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    Well, the vessel called Starfleet One appeared in The Chimes at Midnight in Myriad Universes Volume II. It was just a shuttle, and the scene was set in the mid-2280s, so presumably Starfleet One resembled one of the shuttles from Star Trek IV or Star Trek V. However, that novel was set in an alternate timeline.

    Federation One appears in a fan series and has never been referred to in the novels.

    Paris One has only ever been referred to in one novel, A Singular Destiny. I'd be interested in seeing what it looks like, too. Personally, however, I like to imagine it as being a Federation government-registered but Starfleet-crewed Galaxy-class starship, because I've always seen the Galaxy class as being the most "stately" of the Federation's ships. I see it as being the starship equivalent of the 747. I like to imagine Paris One as having the words PARIS ONE written across the hull, with the Federation emblem painted in bright, vivid blue directly below it where we're used to seeing the registry number. :)

    But before we see Paris One, I'd really rather see the Palais de la Concorde. ;)
     
  9. Christopher

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    If it's analogous to Air Force One, that wouldn't work. Air Force One is not the name of a particular aircraft; it's the call sign of any USAF aircraft carrying the President of the United States, and it's only called that while the President is aboard. There are two Boeing 747s that are used as Air Force One, but when the President is not aboard them, they use their own individual designations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_force_one
     
  10. Sci

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    I'm aware. But I'm positing that Paris One, being italicized like any ship's name, is not a call sign for any ship bearing the President, but rather an actual name for the ship.

    Like I said, it's what I'm conjecturing for myself. I make no claims about what it actually is. But that's how I like to picture it. :)
     
  11. King Daniel Beyond

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    There's an LCARS-style spinning 3D Aventine (albiet untextured) on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YzrOKcfnzA. I think it looks alright, but that said I like the new supersized Enterprise-on-steriods from the new film.
     
  12. Clawhammer

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    After 8 months in the freezer I started with the refining phase. Currently working on the Aventine's specs and then will go for a systems layout schematic. (No time for a nice MSD yet.)
    After that I'm probably starting on a somewhat improved 3D model later this Autumn. I want a model that can be animated and 3D printed.
     
  13. Dimesdan

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    Shiney :bolian:
     
  14. Caleuche

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    It looks like a big cylinder! Over a river! How much more information do you need?:lol: I think the Chateau should be first if we're doing architecture. How about Star Treks first episode of Cribs?:lol:

    Personally I see Paris/Federation/Whatever One looking more like a big sleek SR-71-like spacecraft with blue and white paint job. Less starfleet influence - like I said my post there was far too much starfleet in star trek. It nice to see the cilivans get alook in from time to time.

    As for the call sign issue, if Queen Elizabeth gets her own ship of state (before Blair decided it cost too much), then why shouldn't Bacco? Perks of the job and all that!
    Well my three problems areas with the Aventine were the deflector dish, warp nacelles and the strange notch at the end of the bridge 'hump'. The 3-D images (very well done) make the deflector dish and the nacelles work much better in unison with the ship to my eye. Still unsure about the 'notch' which I assume is either the shuttlebay or impulse engine. Personally she looks to me more like Voyager on steriods that the Enterprise, which is probably a good thing. I'm still reserving some jugement on her though, she has more quirks than the average Trek ship and its going to take a while to get used to them. I hope these are more constructive comments on the ship, I have a right to dislike the ship (or any art), but not to be tactless or rude in the way I express it. So sorry for my earlier wording and well done, Clawhammer on getting the commision!
     
  15. Sci

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    Yeah, and the United States Capitol is a dome over some boxes. And la Casa Rosada is just a pink house. And the Palace of Westminster is just two towers and a clock over a rectangle next to a river. Doesn't mean they're not gorgeous, intricate designs. ;)
     
  16. Clawhammer

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    Caleuche: Anything with cheese is no insult for a Dutch guy, :) but I have to agree your second post was more useful. Anyway: The Shuttle Command Center (Notch) is one of the things that is on the list of reconsideration.
     
  17. Rush Limborg

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    Didn't we see the Palais de la Concorde in "Homefront" and "Paradise Lost"?

    At least, it was a wide shot of a futuristic Paris, with a pretty awesome-lookin' building in the foreground (which I took as the Palais), and the Eiffel Tower in the background....
     
  18. Sci

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    Nope. That building bore no resemblance to what the Palais is described as being -- it wasn't the least bit cylindrical, and it wasn't on the site of the present-day Place de la Concorde. I don't think we need to take that building to be where President Jaresh-Inyo was working any more than we need to take an establishing shot of the Washington Monument in The West Wing to indicate where President Bartlet works. ;)

    Besides, "Homefront"/"Paradise Lost" was written nine years before A Time to Kill was published.
     
  19. Christopher

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    As I recall, though, establishing shots preceding White House scenes in TWW were shots of the White House.
     
  20. Sci

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    Most of them were, but there were plenty of establishing shots of the Washington Monument with voice-overs of the characters speaking in the scene that the shot would then cut to.