Yesterday's Enterprise blooper??

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by los2188, Oct 19, 2012.

  1. Tiberius

    Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    Actually, I was refering to your statement, "I think bot the original time line and the war time line both ended with Tasha going with the Enterprise C."

    Tasha couldn't have gone back to the Enterprise C in the original timeline, as she'd been killed several years earlier.
     
  2. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    There is no difference between 1 and 3.
     
  3. Timo

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    There's no particular requirement for the two to be identical, though. There could be dozens of ways the E-C could return to the past and make enough of a difference that a timeline resembling either 1 or 3 would be the result. In some, Yar might go back; in others, perhaps LaForge would, or Guinan, or then nobody from the future.

    The thing is, timeline 2 comes out of nowhere - it would only come to be if the E-C failed to return through the time anomaly, but no such failure is established yet when timeline 2 suddenly becomes the focus of our attention. Timeline 2 is not the result of any action taken or omission made in timeline 1. Basically, the camera just moves to a parallel universe for a while to show what has "always" happened there (the cowardly retreat of the E-C, and the big war the Feds lose), then moves back to the regular universe to show what has "always" happened there (some anomaly hiccups, our heroes go "Huh?"). But timeline 3 sort of directly results from the actions taken in timeline 2, which makes it very suspect to being different from timeline 1 that for its part was unrelated to timeline 2.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  4. Pavonis

    Pavonis Commodore Commodore

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    Having just watched "The Neutral Zone", I have to point out that it was no direct contact, and it was over the last 53 years, not 70 years.

    The destruction of the Enterprise-C wouldn't count as a contact with the Romulans, since Captain Garrett and her crew didn't return from the encounter. The Klingons let the Federation know of the ship's fate, so there was no direct contact between the Romulans and the Federation there.
     
  5. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Like I said, if - some time before this episode took place - someone had asked about what happened to the Enterprise-C, they would have found that it was destroyed in battle with Romulans at Narendra Three. And Tasha was on the ship. She came from a timeline that is now invalid, yes. But she was still there. There was never a timeline where she was not (except for the 'war future'). It's a classic paradox.

    There are two, and only two, timelines in this episode. One was the war alternate timeline that existed for most of the episode. The other is the 'real' timeline, where there was no war. That's it. Timo is correct - Tasha came from 'out of nowhere', as it were. Apart from interrogating her and the ship's other survivors, no one would have any knowledge of that alternate timeline. But it still happened.