Yeoman Tonia Barrows

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  1. Therin of Andor

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  2. Therin of Andor

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    "In the United States Navy and United States Coast Guard, a yeoman is a rating usually with secretarial, clerical, payroll or other administrative duties. The first women in the U.S. Navy were Yeomen in World War I."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeoman#United_States

    Diana Prince (aka Wonderwoman) was a yeoman in TV's first season of "Wonderwoman".
     
  3. Kinokima

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    Doesn't make the way the role was written in the actual show any better.
     
  4. Melakon

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    One problem was TOS seemed to present the yeoman position as strictly a female job. Though there was some guy in The Cage standing around with a clipboard a lot, so he might have been the only male one seen.

    Were the Wicked Witch's Winkies in the Wizard of Oz also yeomen? "Yo-ee-oh! Yo-oh!"
     
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  6. Warped9

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    Seeing how Kirk griped about a personal "female" yeoman it kind of followed that after Rand left Kirk seemed happy enough to do without one. And so it then made more sense to see a variety of them as it also helped to foster the idea of a large crew where we didn't always see the same faces.

    Yeah, there was that guy in "The Cage" standing around with a clipboard, but also (although not "official") in Marvel Comics' Early Voyages series we see Pike's yeoman before Colt is a male. They picked up on the reference in "The Cage" of Pike's personal yeoman having been killed on Rigel 7.

    The real question at the heart of this, though, is whether a yeoman is really needed when you have extensive ways of storing and filing data electronically. Given the yeoman's role could change over the centuries, but in trying to imagine a future world it's impossible to envision how many things can change over time particularly where new roles are created and old ones can disappear or at least change drastically.

    And I think this dovetails into the ship's Records Officer as depicted by Finney in "Courtmartial." Today we use computers and electronic data storage extensively and we still have secretaries and assistants. So it's possible down the road we could still need people to handle all the records and reports and information generated by a starship or starbase in operation. It's just that their jobs might not be exactly the same as they are today.

    My real question, though, is does a yeoman really need to be on a landing party? Perhaps, depending on the situation, they depend on yeomen to keep an independent record/recording of what transpires planetside as opposed to relying simply on personal recollections. That could work but we didn't see them used that way consistently.
     
  7. BoredShipCapt'n

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    ^ Yes, it would seem that the job of yeoman in Starfleet had evolved to have more varied types of duties than in the US Navy.

    Incidentally, again not canon, but Alan Dean Foster's "Passage to Moauv" (Power Records, 1975) featured a male yeoman named Prentiss.