X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by StarTrek1701, May 31, 2011.

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How Much Did You Enjoy X-MEN: FIRST CLASS?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2011.
  1. A+ (Great Movie!)

    73 vote(s)
    35.6%
  2. A (Entertained a lot!)

    93 vote(s)
    45.4%
  3. B (Was okay, not bad)

    30 vote(s)
    14.6%
  4. C (Below expectations)

    6 vote(s)
    2.9%
  5. D (Very bad)

    2 vote(s)
    1.0%
  6. F (Intolerable, want money back)

    1 vote(s)
    0.5%
  1. KB24

    KB24 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Thank you Samurai! I wasn't going to go super crazy and post all my Bond evidence. Maybe when the DVD of this comes out I can make screen captures and do frame by frame examples!

    :eek:

    ^'that guy who played Magneto' hehe, before that he was 'that guy in Inglorious Basterds' and before that was 'a guy in 300'. Why do people so much trouble with his name? My husband thought he was Jim Fastbendit!

    :guffaw:


    Did I miss your thoughts Rojo? My only disappointment was the weak lesser mutants, but I liked everything else so much, I don't really care about them.
     
  2. T'Baio

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    You now look and sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger in my mind's eye. Thanks a lot.
     
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  3. Admiral_Young

    Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Fassbender is my choice to succeed Craig. Clive Owen was I believe already considered when they were searching for Brosnan's successor.
     
  4. CaptainCanada

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    I'd probably put it in the A-/A range as a film. Strong production values all around, and the 60s period setting is tremendously fun; it's not surprising that superhero films don't do more of this, but it's refreshing (and there's another one coming up in a month or so).

    The film's plot managed to surprise me in a number of instances. Some of them were just as simple as killing off actors that I didn't expect them to get rid of so quickly, as with Oliver Platt.

    Character-wise, there are basically three tiers:

    1. Professor X, Magneto, Mystique (surprisingly)
    2. Beast, Moira
    3. Everybody Else

    Tier 3 is fine as action figures, but there are occasionally significant moments that hang on them which are a bit of a stretch - Angel's defection would be the most obvious instance of this. But then, having more characters than can be managed effectively is fairly in keeping with X-Men comics.:lol:

    Everybody cites Fassbender as the standout, and he is indeed quite impressive, but I'll just chip in for Jennifer Lawrence, who impresses me more and more. I suspect she's at the start of a long and successful career. McAvoy is also very good as Xavier, though he strikes me as an actor who is perpetually waiting for the film where's he's allowed to be the main event; even when he's notionally the lead and is very good, he always ends up being overshadowed by his (often female) costars (Keira Knightley and Saorise Ronan, Forrest Whitaker, Angelina Jolie, Helen Mirren and Christopher Plummer, etc.).
     
  5. TrekkieMonster

    TrekkieMonster Commodore Premium Member

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    I also gave it a C. I wasn't "tremendously" disappointed, but I was definitely disappointed.
     
  6. C_Miller

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    Agreed. She was a major highlight of the film, but mostly because I wasn't really expecting it. I had a good feeling about McAvoy and Fassbender, but she really surprised me. Tier 1 really out did themselves and whats more, I could believe them as real people. Something that I don't thin I have ever been able to say about an X-Men movie.
     
  7. CaptainCanada

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    If you haven't seen her Oscar-nominated breakout part in Winter's Bone, I would recommend it.
     
  8. RoJoHen

    RoJoHen Awesome Premium Member

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    I just went in with very high expectations. The trailers kicked so much ass that I was sure the movie would be awesome.

    Not even close.
     
  9. Captaindemotion

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    Olivia Williams was born in 1968. I reckon the best way to reconcile Moira's age issue (if anyone is bothered about such a discrepancy) is to say that the Moira McTaggart of X-Men 3 is the daughter of the character in First Class.
     
  10. Skywalker

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    Should have just done a full reboot.
     
  11. TrekkieMonster

    TrekkieMonster Commodore Premium Member

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    Thank you for that tip. I've been meaning to see that, and now I have even more reason! :bolian:
     
  12. exodus

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    All elements that deal with his thoughts on civil rights were removed in place of a vengeful assassin. I greatly missed that asspect of the character because what we got no longer represented Magneto = Malcolm X. The Civil Rights issue is what made me an X-Men fan, without that element it's just an average comic book story about nothing. That's why I find the film disappointing, the characters aren't about anything greater than themselves.
     
  13. T'Baio

    T'Baio Admiral Admiral

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    "You want society to accept you, but you can't even accept yourself."

    Did people even see the same movie I did?
     
  14. exodus

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    Which still doesn't relate the POV of Malcolm X.
     
  15. Servo

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    Ok, I saw it last night and thought it was fantastic. The Wolverine cameo almost made me choke on my popcorn. Managed to stay unspoiled on that one, so it came as a surprise.

    Great performances by (almost) everyone, but especially Fassbender, who I agree was rocking the Bond vibe for large portions of the film. Have to completely agree that January Jones was the weakest link and didn't really seem like she could be arsed with the material.

    Loved pretty much everything about it really. Can't wait for a follow up.
     
  16. darthraidr

    darthraidr Commodore Commodore

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    as the lone "D" vote, i wonder the same thing.
     
  17. Samurai8472

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    It's a bad habit of Singer.

    Jumping on to franchises with 4 movies under their belt then making a new movie but ignoring the 3rd and 4th installment
     
  18. lurok

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    ^^I had no expectations good or bad, so C is out. Would have gone for B- (some bits ok like production design)/D+ if option.
     
  19. Ethros

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    Wondered if anyone with a good memory can help, I'm looking for quote before Magneto does his "coin trick" at the end of the movie.
    I guess it was something like "Now, I'm going to make this coin move" that kinda thing, but I can't remember exactly.

    I'll definitely be seeing it again, but not for a few days.


    It would be much appreciated if anyone can remember it!
     
  20. Obiwanshinobi

    Obiwanshinobi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'll take a crack at it. Was it:

    "You want me to move this coin? Here let me shine it up real nice. Turn that sumbitch sideways and stick it up your candy ass! If you smell what Mag-fuckin-neto is cookin'!!!!"

    But yeah JacksonArcher might know, he's seen it like 6 or 7 times now.