Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical?

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  1. Captain Clark Terrell

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    Without knowing precisely how uniform colors are chosen, it's certainly possible that an officer could just pick the color he wanted as long as his background fit within the division in question and he logged hours in that area while serving in his current post.

    Another example of alternate uniform colors would be Spock, who wore the white of the command division after being promoted to captain, but served as science officer in addition to his duties as Kirk's XO following TVH.

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  2. Cyrus

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    It was totally unacceptable when they changed the actor for Daimon Bok. How could Picard still recognize him?

    OK, just kidding.

     
  3. Christopher

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    In the novel Vanguard: Harbinger, which is set between the second pilot and the first season, there's a bit where the Enterprise crew, having returned from the galactic rim, gets assigned the new uniforms that came into use while they were away. When a character sees first officer Spock in science blue, he asks if Spock was assigned the wrong uniform by the quartermaster, and Spock explains that since he's also the science officer, he had a choice of which department color to wear.
     
  4. C.E. Evans

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    To muddy the issue further, Saavik wore a command white undershirt in Star Trek III, but there was a grayish-purple band on her otherwise white service bar similar in color to Chekov's and Uhura's undershirts.
     
  5. Captain Clark Terrell

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    Not sure what you're referring to, as she clearly has the white bar/strap where her rank is located, but I don't see the purple you're talking about. There is a trim on the edge of the bar, but it looks like other officers have the same thing.

    A better example would be Valeris from TUC. She has a red undershirt with a purple rank bar similar to Uhura and Chekov.

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  6. C.E. Evans

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    The service bar on her lower left sleeve. There is a slanted grayish-purple band there.
    http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tsfs/ch2/tsfs0246.jpg
     
  7. BillJ

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    Maybe that just shows she's a rookie officer.
     
  8. Captain Clark Terrell

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  9. C.E. Evans

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    Shane Johnson in his Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise book speculated that it did represent a first-year officer with the colored band representing her division (or perhaps secondary specialty, IMO).
     
  10. BillJ

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    Might be where I got it! Though I haven't really read it in twenty years. :lol:
     
  11. Commishsleer

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    OK since we've gone off track here, has anyone worked out the pip rank thing in STID?
    I'm still confused.

    In regards to the Pine Kirk and Shatner Kirk, if I had looked at Scotty in STVI and none of the other movies I probably would have guessed that they had recast him from TOS. I think he looks quite different from his younger days.
    All the other member of the cast are readily recognisable though.
     
  12. Lt. Uhura-Brown

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    Young Picard from his days at the Academy looks nothing like Shinzon.

    Take from that what you will.
     
  13. SantaEddie74

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    Pip ranks in STID? Rank in this era (Prime as well as the J.J. timeline) is denoted by gold braids on the uniform sleeves, unless there were also pips on some of the uniforms that I'm overlooking and forgetting about. Do you mean the star or emblem-like insignia on the dress uniform shoulder epaulets?

    The Abramsverse rank braids of the late 2250s going into 2260 largely mimic those seen in TOS, TAS and ST:TMP except that there are no broken, dash-like braids to denote ranks such as Captain, Lt. Commander and Lt. Junior Grade. Captain in the new timeline is one wider braid followed by one that's more narrow and then another wider one.
     
  14. King Daniel Beyond

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    ^Yeah, on the shoulders of the dress uniforms - they're similar to the pips worn in ENT. 3 for Commander Spock, 4 for Captain Kirk (who hadn't yet had time to downgrade his uniform) etc.
     
  15. Commishsleer

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    So no Lt Commander?
    What are Scotty's and McCoy's ranks then?

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  16. King Daniel Beyond

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    IIRC, Scotty was rounded down to two pips. I don't recall seeing McCoy in the dress uniform.
     
  17. M'Sharak

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  18. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    I take from that, they were played by different actors.
     
  19. BillJ

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    I always loved that people considered bald Academy Picard a continuity violation. :lol:
     
  20. Captain Clark Terrell

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    Re: Would Spock Prime think Kirk and a young Kirk Prime look identical

    Me, too. Is it really that hard to believe he'd shave his head and grow it back later? I wonder what people thought whenever Shatner wore a different hairpiece on the set.

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