Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversial?

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  1. Drago-Kazov

    Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain

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    In A sci fi setting of course. Let's say the director does not want to portrayblack people negativly he just cannot imagine anyone other then Ving Rhames/Samuel L. Jackson/Tony Todd in the role.
    Would there be a controversy?

    By slaver i don't mean someone who enslaves humans.
     
  2. Starkers

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Why should there be? People of all races have done terrible things to their fellows. Plenty of Black Africans who ended up as slaves were sold to Whites by Black or Arab slavers.
     
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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Mace Windu was complicit in the removal of very young children from their families and their isolation and indoctrination into his religion.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Compared to genocide, this is nickel and dime shit.

    What exactly was Leia "Princess" of after Grand Moff Tarkin frakked her homeworld?
     
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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Of hearts.
     
  6. Starkers

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    I think you'll find she was Princess Royal of the Alderaan asteroid field...
     
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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    She was a Princess in exile. She still had a people, but no planet.
     
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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    The bigger question is, how could she be a princess when her dad was a senator not a king? (and wasn't actually her dad).

    Given her actual dad was dark Lord of the Sith, does this mean she's technically a dark Lady of the Sith?
     
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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Her adoptive mother was a Queen, that's why she's a Princess.
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Besides, padme was a democratically elected princess in her youth, and later in the second movie a Senator. Was Leia a Princess or a democratically elected princess?

    Sith Lord is a religious position that isn't succeeded through bloodlines, even if they are rank with midiclorines.
     
  11. teacake

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    I'm sure she knew that her adoptive mother was a Queen long before ROTJ. She grew up in a palace or something. Her adoptive father, Bail Organa was the Queen's consort but also a senator.
     
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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Also, Alderann isn't Padme's world. The royal titles could be solely for women, I suppose. One can be pretty sure of the mom, after all. Daughters, adopted or natural, may carry titles on Alderann for all we know.
     
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    Okay I dragged myself through the EU swamp that is Wookipedia and apparently Bail Organa was the Prince and his wife only became Queen after marrying him. Don't ask me why she has a higher status title, it doesn't say. Maybe it's a matriarchal planet. Bail is all kinds of political things besides being a senator and presumably he was elected to them, though I would assume the privilege of his birth had a hand in that. Leia became a Princess when she was adopted. She became a Senator presumably in her own right.
     
  14. teacake

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    btw a SW friend told me that Lucas invented the name Leia though obviously there are differently spelled names with similar sounds. Looking at this site though it suddenly appears in 1977 :lol:

    http://nametrends.net/name.php?name=Leia
     
  15. Hound of UIster

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Actually her mother was the Queen. Bail was just the Queen's consort and Prince which lends credence to Alderaan being a matriarchy.
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    You never see my 7 to 15 edits and revisions before you post.
     
  17. teacake

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    I know, too much fast typing :lol:

    And Hound of UIster I read that her mother was the Queen but when I looked up Bail's entry it said she became Queen after marrying Bail, a Prince. It also said she had five miscarriages before they adopted Leia. The EU is full of details like that.
     
  18. Temis the Vorta

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Since this thread is way off the rails, allow me to push it further. I saw a episode of I Shouldn't Be Alive which told the true story of a father who crashed his snowmobile in the woods in the middle of winter, broke his leg and it was up to his preteen daughter to rescue him before he froze.

    Kicker was his daughter was named "Leia," spelled that way, and all I could think was, "dude, you better hope she's not bitter." :D

    PS, the guy had a full on Mark Hamill hairdo from the 70s even though the interview was from just a few years ago.
     
  19. Hound of UIster

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    Bail's family held the title of Viceroy of Alderaan.

    The overall situation is not really clear according to Wookiepedians .
     
  20. teacake

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    Re: Would a black slaver or a concentration camp chief be controversia

    It's a great name. Other than the "lay" part which would get you mercilessly mocked for at least seven years. But if you could survive that it's a name to be proud of.
     

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