Worst experience of Picard's life

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by The Overlord, May 30, 2012.

  1. The Overlord

    The Overlord Captain Captain

    Nov 26, 2010
    What is the absolute worst experience of Picard's life?

    There are some good choices: being assimilated by the Borg, being tortured by the Cardassians, hearing that his brother and nephew died in a fire, etc. But what is the worse of the lot?
  2. JimTheBuilder

    JimTheBuilder Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Aug 10, 2011
    In a van, down by the river in Vermont
    His assimilation has to be the worst, considering he directed the destruction of the fleet, killing tens of thousands. For a man like Picard, this has got to leave very deep scars...
  3. horatio83

    horatio83 Commodore Commodore

    Oct 25, 2009
    Being shown by Q in Tapestry how his life would have turned out if he had not been nearly killed and not being sure that Q will actually give him a third chance.

  4. Tora Ziyal

    Tora Ziyal Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 27, 2010
    ^I would think of that more as a moment of enlightenment than a worst experience.

    Being tortured and assimilated are both way up there. But when someone's had multiple terrible and traumatic experiences, especially in a relatively short period of time, I don't think it's realistic to try to rank them in precise order of severity. Besides, they build on one another.
  5. King Bob

    King Bob Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Jan 30, 2001
    Allowing a bunch of innocent people to die while sitting on his hands in Homeward.
  6. Tiberius

    Tiberius Commodore Commodore

    Sep 28, 2005
    I had a dream I was assimilated once. If my dream was anything to go by, being assimalted is by far the worst.
  7. Mr_Homn

    Mr_Homn Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jan 30, 2010
    I can't imagine a fate worse than assimilation (Okay, maybe I can, but of all the fates in the star trek universe, assimilation seems the worst). It would be like being mentally raped for the rest of your existence. Witnessing the destruction of your loved ones by your own hands, without any control. At least when he was tortured, he could still dream, he still had free will, he was still himself..
  8. marksound

    marksound Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Nov 19, 2008
    Planet Carcazed
    Losing his nephew and brother. Hands down, without a doubt. He even explained to Lily why it was so devastating.
  9. Mr_Homn

    Mr_Homn Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jan 30, 2010
    He seemed to get over that fairly quickly, while assimilation haunted him for decades
  10. Mojochi

    Mojochi Commodore Commodore

    Aug 18, 2007
    Having to tell Lwaxana he loved her :rofl:
  11. trekkiebaggio

    trekkiebaggio Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 20, 2004
    Dancing to the Jailhouse Rock
    Meeting Wesley?

    Having to watch Kamala leave?

    Seriously though, I think another contender would be meeting Sisko. Actually coming face to face with someone who he hurt as Locutus, especially after all that time would have brought back the horror of what he went through.
  12. Avon

    Avon Commodore Commodore

    May 7, 2010
    being stuck in a turbolift with children
  13. Ultramann

    Ultramann Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Mar 28, 2011
    Star Trek Nemesis.
  14. Tom

    Tom Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 10, 2003
    In your Mind!
    To that end, losing Data was really tough.
  15. Lt. LaForge

    Lt. LaForge Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Feb 7, 2012
    Klingon High Council
    I can't decide...
  16. PamalaLauren

    PamalaLauren Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jan 2, 2004
    Simi Valley, CA
    I honestly think losing his brother and nephew was the worst. Sure being assimilated and helping kill many people was probably very horrific but he could in a way detach himself from that, place blame on an outside force that made him do things he normally wouldn't do.

    But losing your family, the only family you have, and the only chance you'd ever had at anything reflecting a son, that's hard. Especially after they had reconciled their differences.

    I don't even think losing Data ranked up there as as hard as losing his family.

    I think the loss of his brother brought the reality of his age and his mortality. Even assimilation with the Borg didn't bring that up. I think up until their deaths he lived with some sort of belief that he had more than enough time to do what he wanted.

    With their death he realized that perhaps he didn't, that even those who aren't taking risks on a regular basis can die, he realized he didn't have the time he thought he once had.

    I think this was reflected too in his experience in the Nexus, having a wife and children. His longing for a family and the realization that he wasn't going to actually have one. That sacrafice and realization I think was perhaps the worst moment for him.
  17. Jonny

    Jonny Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 30, 2010
    Liverpool Merseyside uk
    LOL For a man who was always uneasy with children as Picard was that was probably a bad day for him.

    But I'd say assimilation, losing his brother and nephew and torture all beat that.
  18. Disruptor

    Disruptor Commodore

    Dec 26, 2011
    Losing his hair.

    Okay, okay, losing his brother and his hair.

    Those were my worst experiences, anyway.
  19. RandyS

    RandyS Vice Admiral Admiral

    Nov 9, 2007
    Damn, beat me it.

    Let me also add losing the excellent Enterprise-D and being saddled with that stupid replacement E.
  20. sbk1234

    sbk1234 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 24, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Assimilation, no question.