Wormhole aliens in JJtrek?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by MikeS, Jan 17, 2013.

  1. boobatuba

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    In other news, Pacifica is still wet.
     
  2. DarthTom

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    Part of the problem IMO with all of the non-corporal beings depicted in Trek who live above the plane of our existence is they would be able to see the massive changes in the timeline and I'd think both the Q and the wormhole aliens would be concerned this whole change would fuck up their plans for humans in the future.
     
  3. Nerys Myk

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    It's an alternate reality. The one Q and the Prophets play with is still there for them to have fun with.
     
  4. DarthTom

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    Yea, but for the worm hole aliens at least Ben Sisko was 'the one,' [to use a Matrix metaphor] and there would be no guarantees 100 years later the Borg would invade - his wife would die - he would end up on the station - blah, blah, blah.
     
  5. thumbtack

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    A timeline. They're quite comfortable with the infinite.
     
  6. DarthTom

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    Again that doesn't make sense. Because if that's true, they would have already known that the Pah Wraiths would be defeated that Sisko would do so .. so why the elaborate ruse?

    Again, any being that lives outside of linear time and who can manipulate it knows - what was - what is - but more importantly what will come under every scenario.

    So why wouldn't they intercede when the Romulans break the existing timeline?
     
  7. Nerys Myk

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    And he's still the one in the timeline they seem to care about.
     
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    Has to be eight or sixteen digits. So it should be... 0000000011001001. :eek:
     
  9. thumbtack

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    It's just my NSHO, but I think they are aware of an infinite number of timelines and are not focused exclusively on the timeline we call the prime universe.
     
  10. DalekJim

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    The Prophets would just alter their plan for Sisko accordingly.

    Their updated prophecies will contain bitching about lens flare though that will confuse Kai Opaka to shit.
     
  11. R. Star

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    The flaw with this thread is it assumes continuity when the hand wave JJverse whatever was created as an attempt to escape it and has already demonstrated it'll ignore the elements it didn't escape.

    Unless Kirk's daddy dying really ushered in completely different starship designs, instigated visual contact with the Romulans earlier and so forth... the Prophets are dead in this universe. They never existed.
     
  12. King Daniel Beyond

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    Earlier Romulan contact makes perfect sense considering what happened to the Kelvin. And as for starship designs, we saw exactly one design of Starfleet ship during The Original Series (three if you include TAS and TOS-R), the older Newtons and Mayflowers may have been unseen contemporaries just like the Mirandas and Excelsiors we kept seeing in Next Gen's era.

    As for the wormhole aliens... their discovery would be a century away, so they're as likely to come up as the Kazon. They made so little sense in DS9, they could be twisted quite easily to fit any new situation.
     
  13. UFO

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    Only if Starfleet had a death wish. :) It’s a pity that their response (after washing their underwear) will be one of the numerous interesting consequences of ST09 we will never hear about (except maybe in novels, one day).