World War Z ratings/spoilers

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  1. ATimson

    ATimson Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I know that I would be totally screwed in the event of an apocalypse - I'm in terrible shape, and my skill (computer programming) wouldn't be useful in the slightest. But you know what? I'm okay with that. I can be the distraction while everybody else runs. ;)
     
  2. Starkers

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    For me what gives TWD an edge is the
    whole notion that everyone is infected anyway, this is the factor that essentially makes any long term hope for rebuilding civilisation quite tenuous. You don’t just have to worry about the zombies outside of your walled township, you have to worry about all the healthy people inside the compound because everyone, including yourself, is a potential fifth columnist. You can kiss your wife goodnight and be woken two hours later when she’s gnawing your leg off because she had a heart attack in her sleep. Little Timmy and his friends can be running around a deserted building having a right old time, till Timmy trips down the stairs, breaks his neck, and next thing you know he’s a zombie, and likely pretty soon so are his friends.

    Now imagine this in battle, you not only have to worry about your fellow soldiers being bitten, you have to worry about friendly fire too (and the impression is that this wasn’t common knowledge in TWD universe) as well as accidents and disease. Especially in the early days I wonder how many (non-zombie bite related) wounded soldiers were carted back behind the lines to medical facilities where they subsequently died and turned?
    I liked WWZ much more than I expected to, though I did find it ironic that I wasn’t allowed to see Pitt bludgeoning zombies' heads in in a 15 certificate film in the cinema, when I can see Andrew Lincoln do it on the telly!
     
  3. davejames

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    Finally saw this, and geez, they weren't kidding about it turning into a completely different movie at the end! I can't remember the last time I've seen an ending that felt so completely cut off from the style and tone of the rest of the movie like that.

    As for the movie overall, I thought it was OK. There were some genuinely intense moments here and there, and there was a freshness and originality to many of the action sequences (like at the South Korean airport or in the zombie-infested plane) that I really liked.

    But the whole thing flies by so fast-- with zombie attacks that are so quick and bloodless-- that the movie never really has any real weight or impact. It never feels like this is really happening, but instead like you're just watching a shortened, videogame version of the events or something.
     
  4. Mr Light

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    I'm re-reading the book now, and man I wish they'd taken more from the sequences of the book. You could just have had Brad Pitt's character stumbling through these events in real time on his search through the world.
     
  5. JD

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    Is there anything at all from the book in the movie?
     
  6. Mr Light

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    Very, very little. None of the chapters are re-created in the movie, but some concepts carried over like Israel walling itself off. No mention of Yonkers or the South African plan. And the movie zombies are a fast moving herd, not slouchers.
     
  7. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ I thought the book also allowed for fast zombies? Some slouch, some don't.
     
  8. sojourner

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    I can't recall if the book ever says that they can run, but it never says they are down right slow either.
     
  9. Mr Light

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    I'm re-reading with that thought in mind, and they don't seem to be running but they don't directly say...
     
  10. DarthTom

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    Spoke too soon. Z still held on this weekend in the US. Paramount may greenlight a sequel provided that Pitt signs on

    Forbes

     
  11. DarthTom

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    While neither film knocked it out of the park for Paramount like Man of Steel, I'm sure the studio is still happy with the overall totals for both Trek and Z. And of course they have a viable franchise in both.

    Forbes
     
  12. KGator

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    Exactly! I mean hell, this is a Star Trek board for crying out loud. If you can suspend disbelief on the existence of transporter technology then nothing else should be beyond it. Sure Zombies make no sense on many levels but if you can acheive the technology to disassemble and reassemble items on a molecular level . . . well . . . basically all your needs are now taken care of forever.
     
  13. DarthTom

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    Not to mention the fact that genetic augments have blood apparently that can bring people back from the dead.

    I don't get how people can accept the plot of Trek XI and think that fast moving zombies with incredible levels of smell just stretches disbelief to the breaking point.
     
  14. Shurik

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    This was my reaction to everything that happened after Brad Pitt got on plane in Jerusalem:
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    Everything up to that point was a genuinely good thriller. I didn't mind the fast zombies and PG-13 rating and I knew that the movie has nothing in common with the book, apart from the name.

    It's a wasted opportunity to make a really good global pandemic movie. I don't regret seeing it but I was disappointed by the movie.
     
  15. Trekker4747

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    I agree everything after Jerusalem things slid down hill... a bit, but hardly felt it was horrible. There were still some good moments there, particularly with the Jewish chick, the zombie version of William Fichtner and Pitt enjoying a cool, refreshing, Pepsi after getting his "camouflage" from the zombies. Overall, it's a movie I liked. (Saw it again this past weekend with another friend who wanted to see it.)

    Plenty of mis-steps in it (zombie apocalypse and two guys are going for a rape in the dairy aisle?!) but overall I enjoyed it.
     
  16. BillJ

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    I have no doubt shit like that would happen if humanity imploded.
     
  17. Trekker4747

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    Probably. But probably no so quickly in such a crowded place with so many people around. ;) And is it me, or did the guy behind the pharmacy counter not exactly seem like a pharmacist?
     
  18. sojourner

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    I like to think of the movie as the part we didn't get to see in the most recent version of I Am Legend.
     
  19. Trekker4747

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    And somewhere outside Atlanta, GA a sheriff's deputy lays in a coma from a gunshot wound to the torso.
     
  20. Shurik

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    No, it wasn't horrible, it was stupid. It had probably already been said here, but the whole idea of infecting people with deadly but curable diseases for camouflage purposes is really really dumb. It's a terrible idea. What if one of those diseases gets out of hand and the world has a goddamn black plague or something in addition to zombie apocalypse?
    It was also implied that zombies didn't bite one of the soldiers in South Korea because he was limping. The Israeli soldier girl had her arm cut off - why were the zombies reacting to her then, do zombies only bite the healthy people who can move easily? Why not send her to get the stuff at WHO, or at least to try to see what would happen if she got close to one of the zombies?

    BTW, Segen in Hebrew is lieutenant, as in army rank, it made little sense not to give an Israeli girl a proper name even after the Jerusalem scene, but that's a minor nitpicking. It just looked weird to me.
     

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