World War Z ratings/spoilers

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  1. The Naughty List

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    Regardless of the sound issue, I don't think they predicted that the zombies could combine to form Voltron and climb over a 100 foot tall wall.
     
  2. Trekker4747

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    Still, why tempt them by making loud noises?

    Indeed. Though the getting the asthma medication made for a pleasant distraction, but then the kids went into a coma and pretty much slept for the rest of the movie.

    And maybe I missed something, but why did the WIFE have the sat-phone? Why didn't the General or the head of the UN or whomever have it? When Brad wanted to talk to his boss(es) he had to contact them through his wife? And nice use of the "wife calls the phone which is not set to vibrate during a sound-sensitive mission" trope, Movie.
     
  3. Cutter John

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    I'm with you. A bloodless zombie film is absolutely pointless and the whole 'terminal virus' thing just pisses all over the original story. Honestly, screw this thing. If I need a WWZ fix I'll just give the recently released unabridged audio version another listen.
     
  4. EmoBorg

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    In the Flesh was brilliant. A Show from a rehabilitated zombie POV. I wonder if such a show can be remade in the U.S.
     
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    I think there is a show in the works in the U.S. dealing with zombies being rehabilitated, or at least dead people coming back to life to rejoin society.
     
  6. The Naughty List

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    Yeah, I knew the second he gave her the sat-phone that it was going to come back to bite him in the ass later on (possibly literally!) when she would call him while he was trying to sneak around some zombies. The guy is supposed to be this super smart investigator but he doesn't think to deactivate the ringer on his phone before wandering around zombies?
     
  7. Agent Richard07

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    - It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either.

    - When Brad Pit said that he got some in his mouth and we later got that throwaway line about how 5% of those infected take longer to turn, I thought that meant that he'd turn by the end of the movie.

    - I actually liked seeing the zombies climb over each other to scale the wall. No limits or inhibitions, just one big adrenaline rush and a pure driven instinct to go after the target. It was a nice contrast to the slow-moving zombies we usually see.

    - I can accept that the zombies could sense that a person had a fatal disease. It didn't strike me as magical or unusual, it was just a natural aversion to something that wasn't good for them. As mentioned though, it was a little odd to see them run past the kid so quickly.

    - Yeah, I noticed that there was an awful lot of effort put into protecting Brad Pitt too.

    - Pitt injects himself with a fatal disease and doesn't even show symptoms? That I didn't buy. I'll admit though that I don't know enough about how different pathogens affect the system.

    - After Pitt successfully walked past the zombie like a boss and stopped for a refreshing drink, everyone in the theatre broke out laughing.
     
  8. Karl Shoottheglass

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    Worst single moment: Pitt's younger daughter screaming ''I WANT MY BLANKET!!!'' just as the first major zombie attack churns up. Much better moment: Pitt calmly dealing with his older daughter's breathing trouble with non-summer histrionics. Cool as ice.

    Unlike MAN OF STEEL, if you pay for the 3D here, you'll actually SEE it.
     
  9. Admiral2

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    Yeah, but also unlike MoS, most of the movie you don't care that it's in 3d. For what was shown 2D would have been just fine.
     
  10. Karl Shoottheglass

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    That's particularly true for the ending. The 3D seemed far less a factor within the lab.:rolleyes:
     
  11. Ríu ríu chíu

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    Normal humans can't do that, so why would zombies be able to? They're not telepathic or anything.
     
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    They don't have to be. Normal human beings can sense frailty in other human beings without knowing what the specific frailties are. Zombies are under the control of viruses reanimating dead flesh. Dead flesh can be augmented in ways living tissue can't without hurting that tissue. So, maybe the virus heightens the various senses a human would use to detect illness in another human (sight, smell, touch) to the point where zombies can detect fatal weakness. That doesn't require any more intelligence than reanimating the body and hunting down other bodies for food would.
     
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    If these Zombies really are dead flesh (as opposed to rage monsters), why would eating someone with a disease even matter to them? [Real Question, I haven't seen it.]
     
  14. Scroogourner

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    ^It's not about sustenance, it's about passing the virus to a healthy host.
     
  15. Admiral2

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    Actually, that is about sustenance. Viruses eat, it's just that what they eat is incredibly small (DNA strands). A healthy body will have healthy cells and therefore intact DNA strands. A body with a disease caused by a virus or some degenerative disorder will have unhealthy cells and broken or perverted DNA strands, which to the zombie virus is pretty much the equivalent of spoiled meat. (Actually, not the equivalent. That pretty much is spoiled meat.)
     
  16. Scroogourner

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    ^But for the zombie it's not about sustenance.
     
  17. Trekker4747

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    Yeah, the "Zombie Virus" wasn't about the zombies being (un)-dead or anything like that they were simply spreading an infection to "propagate" a species. They'd bite a victim and move on, the victim would turn in a few second wash, rinse, repeat.

    And it makes "some" sense that they wouldn't want to turn someone who had a terminal illness. But that, again, brings us to what is "terminal enough" to dissuade the zombie? The flu can be terminal if you have a weak immune system and in some cases can develop into pneumonia which is potentially even more lethal. So would someone with a flu turn away the zombie? Chicken pox? (Again, potentially lethal in some cases.) And wouldn't many Americans be unpalatable to them due to diabetes? That aspect of the movie doesn't hold up if you think about it for more than a moment or two.

    But it was awesome seeing Pitt walking through the zombies "like a boss" after he hit the dump-button on the Pepsi machine. Heck, him standing there casually drinking the Pepsi was pretty awesome and humorous given, yeah, he probably needed a Pepsi right about then. :)
     
  18. Mike Farley

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    He needed Pepsi's product placement $$ to pay for the re-shoots.

    Pitt was SUPPOSED to be with the doctor and the SEAL team and thus would have normal modes of communication available to talk to his superiors. The Sat phone was for private communication with his wife to keep her reassured of his safety.
     
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    So when things went south why not call her and say, "Hey, give this phone to the General so I can keep him up to date. Dumb-ass didn't know how to properly hold a gun and ended up shooting himself in the head so we're going to play this one by the seat of our pants."

    It just seemed odd that after the botched mission to S. Korea it seemed Pitt had no real connection again to the military.

    God! I had to laugh after all of the production company logos at the beginning of the movie. And, DAMMIT! Product placement?! Brad Pitt is selling out as much as Superman is!
     
  20. Ríu ríu chíu

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    But that's the thing: Zombies cannot, by definition, WANT. They operate on instinct alone. And their instinct is only to slash, maim, bite and kill. They have no idea what they're doing - indeed, they can't have ideas at all. To "want" implies intelligence, and zombies obviously have none.

    Zombies don't act with intent. They simply act. They have no intelligence, no intent, no purpose, they are just pure violence for the sake of violence.