World War Z premiere to coincide with end of the world

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  1. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Ech. They went and changed it into standard Hollywood muck. Brad Pitt saves the wife and kiddies and he's the ONE MAN WHO CAN SAVE US ALL!!!!

    Did those bozos even read the book?

    PS, it occured to me that Paul Redeker was the savior of the world in the book, but he sure didn't do it by being an action hero and Hollywood wouldn't touch that story with a ten foot pole.
     
  2. Dream

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    Yeah, this looks like another Big Dumb Action Movieā„¢.

    I'll take The Walking Dead over this anyday.:p
     
  3. sojourner

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    All it needs is Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum.
     
  4. Tom Servo

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    I've never read the book, so I have no context of whats different, but I think this looks pretty damn cool. I like the different take on the zombie outbreak that what has been seen before. And this is from someone who finds the whole zombie genre incredibly boring, including The Walking Dead.
     
  5. Dream

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    That's the problem with this movie. This movie looks like it will have nothing to do with the book. Why bother calling it World War Z if they doing follow the book at all except for the token gesture of giving one of the character the same? :shrug:
     
  6. Obiwanshinobi

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    Currently reading the book and this trailer has got me interested as well.
     
  7. Temis the Vorta

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    Like what? All I saw was Standard Hollywood Tropes(TM) plus some action scenes.

    We've got the Spielbergian hero, wife and cute kids in tow. For reasons unexplained, he has some special ability to fight zombies that makes his indispensable (not even sure what they're getting at there - immune to zombie bites, has magic healing blood or what?) It's all old hat, I felt like I've already seen this movie.

    But basing a movie on the book structure, complete with the anthlogy format, would have been an interesting departure from the norm. The anthology format provides a particularly eerie effect, since you only get bits and pieces of the story and it takes a while to put it all together, like just seeing glimpses of things in a darkened room.

    It also allows the story to be told from the perspective of people all over the world, which sells the idea that this is a monstrous, global threat, instead of focusing mainly on just one character, who of course must be a white male.
     
  8. Dream

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    Why did they go with terrible CGI zombies? Reminds me of the shitty zombies in I Am Legend.

    They should have gone the zombie makeup route which The Walking Dead effectively uses weekly.
     
  9. Set Harth

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    Tastes like chicken.
     
  10. Dream

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    I think this would have been so much better as some kind of miniseries on HBO instead of a movie. If it was on cable, they could actually do the multiple perspectives thing, and not be forced to tell it in under two hours.
     
  11. DarthTom

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    Copy right laws. ;) It's close enough to the book that Paramount would get their asses sued if they didn't acknowledge the writer by naming the film after his book and paying him a shit load of money for the rights.

    Trust me if they could have retitled the film, "Zombie Wars" - not paid the writer of the book a nickel and still gotten Brad Pitt to star in the film they would have in a heartbeat.
     
  12. sojourner

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    ^Your argument would have merit if they hadn't bought the rights to the book before ever having an idea for the movie. nevermind a script. And I would argue that the movie we are getting is far enough from the book that even copyright laws wouldn't be an issue.
     
  13. Locutus of Bored

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    That's completely backwards. They could have just made any old zombie movie they wanted and not have worried about copyright. But they wanted to use the popularity and name recognition of the World War Z novel to attract fans and people who hadn't read it but had heard of it to the film. Giving it some generic name would largely defeat the purpose. Furthermore, originally Pitt's whole reason for signing on was that he was a huge fan of the book, IIRC. Both of which are why it's so incredibly frustrating that they essentially threw out the narrative, zombie mechanics, and the overall point of the novel and went with something completely different.
     
  14. DarthTom

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    I'm sure Paramount saw the book and thought it may be a good story and bought the rights. The problem obviously has become is how to make the film into a blockbuster and adhere somewhat to the book and the original storyline.

    Temis made a good point earlier as well that it may have been an interesting story for some of us to film the zombie plague as written, I'm doubting that approach would have had mass appeal. The general public expects big visuals and it to be fast paced.

    I'll give you a great example of a big budget film that flopped but still IMO was a great story. I saw Cloud Atlas last weekend. Great story, top rate actors, good story [albeit a little long at almost 3 hours] but very, very slow. And it cost a fortune to film at nearly $100 million. It's being dubbed the $100 million flop.

    World War Z is a great story as written but not IMO a great story to put into a ~ 2 hour film with big stars who command large salaries which makes the film very expensive to make and therefore demands a large audience to pay for itself.
     
  15. sojourner

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    ^You've got your chicken before the egg there.
     
  16. Locutus of Bored

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    I never bought into the argument that the book couldn't be cinematic yet largely faithful to the format with a few key changes. All the big visuals and action are there, just in separate anecdotes from the people being interviewed. And instead of putting the focus on one big star, they could have had a huge international ensemble cast of talented actors and actresses to fill the various roles in the book.

    I always thought a good template for a cinematic adaptation of WWZ would be the Edward Zwick movie Courage Under Fire with Denzel Washington. I understand that Hollywood would want its leading character involved in the action somewhat, so like that film, you can give it a framing story where the interviewer recalls his own experiences from the war. You could have him be embedded with one of the units who fought in the Battle of Yonkers for instance, which gives the film a chance to start off with a massive battle that hooks the viewer in.

    After that, the reporter is sent on assignment to interview various survivors about their perspectives on the war, similar to how Washington interviewed the survivors of the primary incident in Courage Under Fire to find out the truth about what happened, but in this case it would be numerous unrelated people with unrelated stories. In the end, everything he learns from the others could give him a new perspective on his own experiences and thus tie the sorylines together.
     
  17. sojourner

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    ^To take that further, I think it would have been neat to have different directors for the segments. It would have further developed the different point of views of the people telling the stories.
     
  18. Temis the Vorta

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    Being faithful to the book certainly would be a risk, since the anthology format is so unfamiliar to audiences but I would have liked to see a little more creativity vs total capitulation to the standard Hollywood formula. I think they could have come up with a better compromise at least...
     
  19. sojourner

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    Yes, the anthology concept is definitely beyond the grasp of the average human being.:rolleyes:
     
  20. Ian Keldon

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    ^In the context of a big-screen movie it is.
     

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