World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by M'Sharak, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. Cakes488

    Cakes488 Commodore Commodore

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    You know what you're right! After the next bashing that was going to be the very next thing I said! LOL

    So in the spirit of the true cause of the thread...I find it absolutely repulsive that Spock would be involved with Uhura in any kind of sexual way....

    I mean I know they said reboot----but I didn't think they'd be knockin the boots! :p
     
  2. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    I hate to interrupt this little love-fest the two of you have got going, but that sort of shenanigans with the spelling of usernames really isn't going to fly here, Cakes. Disagree, if you must -- even disagree vigorously -- but the namecalling stops now, please.

    Now, as Captain X wishes to remind us:

    ...though only a few posts back, he said something which seems to belie that sentiment somewhat:
    To this, I'll say only that there are those holding opinions more closely resembling your own who have taken the very same tack you describe here, (and may indeed be attempting to employ yourself in the very post I've quoted) and it didn't make them any more right.

    Yes, I think getting back to discussing the movie is a much better idea.
     
  3. Captain X

    Captain X Rear Admiral

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    You think I enjoy having to point out that bashing someone for their opinion as being "uninformed, unduly biased, ill-reasoned or just plain stupid" because they don't agree with the party line? Please, I may be stubbornly persistent, but I'm no sadist. The idea is to get people to realize that everything said here is opinion, whether they agree with it or disagree with it, and that both can be done without insulting the opinion holder. Gads, I've lost count of how many times someone's been accused of living in their mother's basement or of being a "purist" or a "fundamentalist" because they don't like this movie and have the gall to try to explain why. Hell, there are people here who don't like the movie and I don't agree with them. There are people here who don't agree with me and we have managed to have some good debate, so it is possible to talk about this movie, its merits and/or failings, without insulting others. And to be honest I think a good deal of it comes from far too many people getting it in their head that not liking this movie and saying so is just some kind of trollish attempt to spoil their fun. Another part of it is that some people have it in their head that they just have to be "better than" a perceived minority. As so many people remind everyone, this is a movie. There is no reason why discussion here can't be fun. It sucks that the only thread in here that has any real sense of fun is the blue nacelles thread.
     
  4. darkwing_duck1

    darkwing_duck1 Vice Admiral

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    Agreed.

    DS9, for example, had the perfect setup for a new series contained in it's finale, had Paramount chosen to use it.

    The concept could be summed up in a simple question:

    "They won the war...now, can they win the peace?"

    The new series could have shown us a battered and fragmented Federation trying to secure it's future in the Alpha Quadrant while dealing with the deeply divisive issues churned up by the Dominion War (colonists vs full member worlds, militarists vs "explorers", and just what happens when the Romulans find out about the Federation's little black lie?).

    The stories would be the adventures of a crew from a badly mauled, undermanned and outgunned Starfleet that can barely keep the spacelanes open but must reach down and find the strength (physical and moral) to reforge galactic civilization.
     
  5. ClayHefner

    ClayHefner Commander Red Shirt

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    Sounds awesome. But remember who was running the franchise back then.
    At least VOY was just messing with the Delta Q
     
  6. darkwing_duck1

    darkwing_duck1 Vice Admiral

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    True, the "Killer B-s" would have had to keep their damn hands off of it ( like they mostly did with DS9 ).

    The story is still viable, but with the "non-reboot reboot" I doubt it will ever get done. New Trek (like new Galactica) has taken up the public image of the franchise.
     
  7. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    There's still an infinite amount of life left in the original Star Trek, as a number of good (and even mediocre) writers have been proving for decades.

    As for Ron Moore-- well, I'll be as kind as I can possibly be. :lol: I think the architect of nuBSG, even if you believe he has talent, was simply too bored with Star Trek, thematically, to have any interest in being creative in that arena.
     
  8. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I can't wait to see what they'll do with ST XI. Ideally, they'll do stuff which works both timelines into one story...
     
  9. darkwing_duck1

    darkwing_duck1 Vice Admiral

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    Given the way he was treated by the Bs, can you blame him?
     
  10. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I would hope so - anyone who can create something as novel and interesting as nuBSG would be spinning their wheels managing the nth Star Trek series set in the 2nth century aboard the NCC-1701-n... It would be a step down and back for Moore at this point.
     
  11. darkwing_duck1

    darkwing_duck1 Vice Admiral

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    Yes, because it's SOOOO much more creative to go back over someone else's already created ground...:rolleyes:
     
  12. Kelso

    Kelso Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I'm actually watching The Maltese Falcon at this very moment. That made me laugh.


    Carry on...
     
  13. darkwing_duck1

    darkwing_duck1 Vice Admiral

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    ????
     
  14. Kelso

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    Oh, sorry.

    John Huston's 1941 film The Maltese Falcon was the 3rd film adaption of Dashiell Hammett's novel. In fact, it was the 3rd film adaptation within ten years (IIRC)... yet it is regarded as one of the best films of all time.

    It was almost as if the universe was disproving your point as I was reading it.

    I found it humorous, that's all.
     
  15. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I did not know that! Are any of the other versions in existance and available? That would have some curiosity value.

    EDIT: Oh my goodness, Detective Ted Shane? :lol:

    Wikipedia doesn't have much to say about the 1931 version.

    So much for the notion that Hollywood just recently discovered remaking everything under the Sun.
     
  16. Kelso

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    Yeah. The 1931 version is actually good... if you don't compare it to Huston's masterpiece.

    ...along with the ever-present claim that "da original is alwayz better!!!"
     
  17. darkwing_duck1

    darkwing_duck1 Vice Admiral

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    Which really wasn't my point.

    Dennis was claiming that "reinventing" BSG was somehow more creative than coming up with all NEW characters and situations in a "shared setting", when the reverse is the actual case.
     
  18. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Ain't that the truth!

    Thank you - I will buy the DVD.

    Just don't tell me that there's a older version of "Casablanca" out there starring Frederic March or something. ;)
     
  19. Kelso

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    Yeah, I got a bit off topic. :lol:


    So... Star Trek... looks good, eh?
     
  20. Borgminister

    Borgminister Admiral Moderator

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    As I'm sure he'd be the first to tell you... :lol:

    What a laugh.