Wiped Episode Discoveries

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Allyn Gibson, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

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    In Doctor Who, historicals are stories set in Earth's past, without any sci-fi elements.
     
  2. Christopher

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    ^Uh, yes, we all know that. That's why we've been tossing around the word "historical" in our posts as if we knew what it meant. The point is about whether the first serial fits that category or not.
     
  3. Sindatur

    Sindatur The Grey Owl Wizard Premium Member

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    Wether niggling over "Pre-historical" or "Historical", IMHO, as a Serial, it doesn't qualify because An Unearthly Child brings in all the SciFi elements, The TARDIS, The Time Travel, etc. Now, of course, The Historicals have them traveling in The TARDIS, but, that's after that part is established. With The first episode, since it introduces the whole premise and the SciFi elements and that's mainly what the episode is about, it qualifies as SciFi, IMO. The other 3 episodes are like a different Serial, and yea, they belong in the "Historical" pile, IMHO (wether you want to call them "Historical" or "Pre-historical")
     
  4. The Mirrorball Man

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    And it does. There's no need to be pedantic about those terms, in my opinion. Or we could argue that, since they're all fictional anyway, there's no point in calling any of these stories "historical".
     
  5. Christopher

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    Good grief, lighten up. I'm just playing with words, because it's fun.
     
  6. Mr Awe

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    I don't know, AUC did a great job of depicting 1963 and that's nearly 50 years ago, so that's historical! ;)

    Mr Awe
     
  7. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were joking.
     
  8. sidious618

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    Neither did I and I had the same reaction as you.
     
  9. Lonemagpie

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    Actually we don't, technically, know for sure that episodes 2-4 of the series are set on Earth, we just assume so.
     
  10. diankra

    diankra Commodore Commodore

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    And, of course, we have no way of knowing when stories with no apparent links to Earth like The Keys of Marinus and The Krotons and so on are set, so they could be before 1963 for all we know! Which would make them non-Earth historicals! ;)

    [Sorry, couldn't resist it!]
     
  11. Christopher

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    I'm not joking. I'm just engaged in a light-hearted exploration of ideas because I find it interesting, rather than trying to be "pedantic" or judgmental. It's just an abstract philosophical conversation with nothing at stake. I see that as recreation, not confrontation.
     
  12. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well, this it the internet.
     
  13. Starkers

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    It is? I thought it was Milton Keynes?

    Damn Sat-Nav...
     
  14. Lonemagpie

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    Those certainly exist in DW - Genesis of the Daleks is a perfect example, set in the past of a planet that had previously been depicted.
     
  15. Relayer1

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    There's no such place.

    I know, I've been there...
     
  16. Candlelight

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    I always consider The Enemy of the World a future historical but that's me.
     
  17. Christopher

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    I can see what you mean. It's set in the future, but it's a political thriller rather than something driven by a monster or an alien invasion or a technological threat (although Salamander does have some dangerous technologies at his disposal).
     
  18. Starkers

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    So have I...many times. The only City I've ever visited that just felt like a huge University campus!
     
  19. The Borgified Corpse

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    The BBC certainly has an interesting marketing strategy: Deny that your product even exists up until the day that you release it!:wtf:
     
  20. The Mirrorball Man

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    It seems to work alright for Apple! :D