Windows XP Gaming Problems with Solutions

Discussion in 'Trek Gaming' started by The DOS Machine, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. The DOS Machine

    The DOS Machine Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Considering the increasing number of help requests in the community relating to technical problems running previously released Trek games under Windows XP, I think it would be an excellent idea for us to create a storehouse of common and uncommon XP-related issues WITH SOLUTIONS. Please don't use this thread to request help! Only post solutions to problems that are known to you so they can be shared with everyone else. Also use this thread to clarify problems and solutions.

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    [​IMG] GENERAL TIPS FOR ALL PROBLEMS:

    It is recommended that you fully patch your game and attempt to use all Compatibility Mode settings before requesting help on this forum.

    An official game patch is a program or file(s) released by a game publisher that you download to fix problems and tweak gameplay. Usually they include instructions on how to apply them to your installed game. The official website for a game is the usual source for official patches, but other gaming sites have them as well. 3DGamers.com is a good source for patches, while TrekPulse Gaming, the Star Trek Gaming Universe, and other Trek gaming fansites may/will eventually have them also. If all else fails, do a search on Google for your game's name and "patch" for a list of sites.

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    I'll start with Dominion Wars. It would probably be best to sustain this format for easier searching:


    GAME: Star Trek Deep Space Nine Dominion Wars (2001, Simon & Schuster Interactive)

    PROBLEM: The in-game mouse cursor experiences stuttering or slowdowns/lagging although the rest of the game seems fine, making it impossible to play.

    SOLUTION:

    (Patching the game to version 1.04 is highly recommended!)

    1. Use Compatibility Mode with the game if you haven't already and set it to "Windows 98 / Windows ME". If problems continue....

    2. Reduce your desktop resolution to at least 1024x786 (XGA), preferably 800x600 (SVGA), and then run the game. If problems continue....

    3. Download, extract, read about, and install the unofficial XP patch for Dominion Wars (RAR archive, requires v1.04 installation). This is untested.


    -DOSMAN

    P.S.-Would you please sticky this thread, daedalus5?
     
  2. The DOS Machine

    The DOS Machine Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    I'm sure there are a dozen of you out there who've solved WinXP problems with your Trek games, so come on: Share the Knowledge! ;)

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    GAME: Star Trek TNG Birth of the Federation (1999, Microprose)

    PROBLEM: Game will not start/crashes to desktop after splash screen

    SOLUTION: Three easy steps....

    1. Make a clean install of BotF (if not already the case)

    2. Install the 1.02 patch

    3. In the directory the patch files were extracted to (usually \botf\temp) there is a file called USTREK.EXE. Copy this file and paste it into the \botf (main BotF install) directory.

    -3A. Rename the existing TREK.EXE file in the main directory to TREK.EXE.BAK (or whatever).

    -3B. Finally, rename the USTREK.EXE file you just added here to TREK.EXE


    Thanks to Sloansect31 from the TrekPulse BBS for this info!

    -DOSMAN
     
  3. zephramc

    zephramc Commodore Commodore

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    Does anyone have any solutions for XP and Klingon Academy? I've started playing it again. My friend gave it back after borrowing it for almost 4 years.

    My problem is that the game will crash at random times during ship combat. It dumps this to the Event Viewer:
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    Faulting application ka.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module ka.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x0010a251.
    ---------------------------------------------------------

    Anyway I can find much information on the game. Interplay went belly-up. I found through a google search, one person having similar problems, and he/she was able to fix it by rolling back their Nvidia Detonator driver to an old version. I tried that but no luck.

    PC Specs:
    2.4GHz P4
    512MB DDR RAM
    64MB GForce 4 MX (Yes I know it sucks)
    Sound Blaster Audigy 2
    Windows XP SP2 w/ all the trimmings, err. patches.

    Oh and I have tried compatibility mode :)
     
  4. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Commodore Commodore

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    Windows 2000 Users as well as Windows XP users could benifit from the use of DOSBox for running any Star Trek game that ran in DOS. Of cause there are other ways to get the games running without the use of this program (regarding sound) but its probably the least fussy.

    Heres the link http://dosbox.sourceforge.net.

    Charlie
     
  5. The DOS Machine

    The DOS Machine Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    ^Just to fix your link: http://dosbox.sourceforge.net

    With 64-bit PCs and the next generation of Windows, true DOS emulation like DOSBOX will soon be the only way to run all DOS games outside of a virtual OS (VMware or Virtual PC) or an older Win 98, 95, or DOS multimedia PC.

    -DOSMAN
     
  6. Nightcr4wler

    Nightcr4wler Ensign Newbie

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    Guys, can anyone help me?
    i'm trying to install(!!) A Final Unity under WinXP, and i'm stuck.
    I've tried almost everything; from editing autoexec.nt and config.nt, i've tried vdms, and dosbox and still... i'm stuck.
    the first issue was files/buffers problem, witch i manage to pass with dosbox, but the installer still don't accept the cd rom (drive or virtual). can anyone help?? please, i'm desperate.
    thx to you all.
     
  7. Guest

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    Nightcr4wler,
    I don't know if you've tried this, but it worked for me to run it in win98 - I haven't tried it in XP yet as I haven't installed my new computer yet, but I don't see any reason this shouldn't work in XP - it's worth a try anyway. Because A Final Unity (which is a fantastic, amazing game btw ;-)) was never meant to run under any kind of windows, you have to fool the game into thinking you're not in windows, when actually you are. I couldn't find the orginal instructions I used to do this, but I think these ones are the same:

    1. Put the Star Trek: The Next Generation "A Final Unity"

    disc in the CD-ROM drive.

    2. Click on "My Computer."

    3. Double-click on the drive letter for your CD-ROM drive.

    4. Use your right mouse button to click on "Install."

    5. Click on "Properties."

    6. Click on the Program tab.

    7. Click on "Advanced."

    8. Click on "Prevent MS-DOS based programs from detecting

    Windows."

    9. Click on OK.

    10. Click on OK.

    11. Double-click on the "Install" icon.

    If you receive a message that your CD-ROM drive is too slow,

    ignore it. The CD-ROM speed test is invalid in a multitasking

    environment. You may also receive a suggestion to set up an icon

    for MS-DOS mode as the installer tests your video card. In most

    cases you can ignore this message. (If you're running a machine

    that meets the absolute minimum system requirements, you may

    want to set up that icon.)

    12. The installer should be able to detect all of your hardware.

    Accept the defaults.

    13. To run the game, find the directory where you installed Star

    Trek: The Next Generation "A Final Unity," then look for the

    STTNG.EXE file and click on it with the right mouse button.

    14. Click on "Properties."

    15. Click on the Program tab.

    16. Click on "Advanced."

    17. Click on "Prevent MS-DOS based programs from detecting Windows."

    18. Click on OK.

    19. Click on OK.

    20. Now double-click on the new STTNG icon.


    I know this worked for me under win98, and I'll definitely be trying it when I install my new XP computer. The only problem I found was, the game tended to cut back to desktop at random intervals, so just keep saving as you go along so you don't lose too much if stops for no reason.
    Good luck! I hope this works for you.
     
  8. Fullman

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    Agreed. A Final Unity was a pain in the ass to get to work on my computer back in the day it came out!

    I had a pretty fast computer back then, with more than the minimum specs, and I remember having to bend over backwards just to get past the introduction movie! :lol:

    (Coincidentally, Deep Space Nine: Harbinger was far, far worse in compatiblity. Those damned VESA drivers :scream:)

    I'll keep an eye out for you for any tips other people might have around the net. I still have my CD here and wouldn't mind playing it again.
     
  9. Nightcr4wler

    Nightcr4wler Ensign Newbie

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    thx for your advise, Melis. The only problem, is that win xp does't have the "Prevent MS-DOS based programs from detecting Windows" option under the advanced in the program tab. there is only a chckbox writen "hardware emulation... something". as i wrtote, i was able to bypass the files/buffers problem with dosbox, but still stuck with the cd-rom issue (can't ignore it. it's marked as red). i've read tips for instaling the game booting from a win95 bootdisk, but my computer is ntfs, so the bootdisk don't recognize my drives.
    Anyway, i apreciate what you've done. If there's anyone who can help me please... i'm desperate...
    thx.
     
  10. Guest

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    Ah, I'm sorry Nightcr4wler, I didn't realise that function wasn't available on XP. That kinda sucks then...sorry about that.
    An extreme solution that I've been told about is to do with installing a 'virtual PC' on your computer - which is a way of running more than one operating system on your PC at a time. You install the software, create a virtual harddrive, and install MSDOS into this - so essentially, it's a separate DOS computer within your XP computer, which theoretically you can run any DOS game on.
    If you're thinking this sounds complicated, you're right ;-) but according to my friend the computer expert, it's not that hard, as long as you have the disks to install MSDOS with - which I don't know if you do. I don't know if I do either, for that matter, I'm still hoping DOSbox will work for me before I try and do this...but if you're good with computers (which I'm not) it's an option worth researching at least. Google 'virtual PC', and see what you come up with.
     
  11. A Chimpanzee & 2 Trainees

    A Chimpanzee & 2 Trainees Captain Premium Member

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    I know this might sound stupid, but when you mounted your cd-rom drive in dosBox, did you mount it with -t cdrom option?

    25th Anniversary wouldn't recognize my CD-ROM when I mounted it until I did that....
     
  12. CaptainHawk1

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    New Worlds: can't get it to run period. despite trying everything suggested.

    -Shawn :borg:
     
  13. Nightcr4wler

    Nightcr4wler Ensign Newbie

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    Thx guys...
    Melis, i've tried the "virtual machine", but since my drive is ntfs, fat 32 O.S.s dont install.
    And Chimp, i tried all the options when emulating the cd rom...
    25th anyverssary and judgement rites runs smoothly... justthe damned final unity does'nt run...
    now i'll try to run DS9 Harbinger.. so if anyone can come up with tips i'd apreciate.
    thx.
     
  14. Nightcr4wler

    Nightcr4wler Ensign Newbie

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    see the irony in all this...
    ds9 harbinger runned smotth on win xp... without dosbox.... just the godamm' final unity doesn't run... aaaaarrrrrgh...
    somebody help me!!!!
     
  15. Divine

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    I was able to get Final unity to play doing a manual install so it bypassed the setup and the cdrom issue. Although I never figured out how to get the audio to work.
     
  16. Nightcr4wler

    Nightcr4wler Ensign Newbie

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    how i do the manual install??
    can you help me with that??
    thx
     
  17. Divine

    Divine Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Re: Windows XP Problems WITH Solutions

    I used dosbox and used these instructions.
    This is from here:
    After that you'll need to config your STTNG.ini file since you cant run the setup.

    A user here said these settings worked for him:
    I think for sound, dosbox default is IRQ 5.
     
  18. Nightcr4wler

    Nightcr4wler Ensign Newbie

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    Thx Man. I've tried but it was no good. i've got various fatal errors and the game wasn't installed at all.
    it can't create the files. Dunno why. If you have any other tips i'd apreciate. thanks again.
     
  19. A Chimpanzee & 2 Trainees

    A Chimpanzee & 2 Trainees Captain Premium Member

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    I have final unity running with (almost) no issues through DOSBox 0.63. My only hangup is that the mouse movement is frustrating. My hand has to cross the entire mousepad multiple times to get even halfway across the screen.... But anyway, it's installed, running and the audio doesn't even skip, and there really wasn't that much modification that I had to do to the default dosbox.conf

    what I remember having to do was...

    mnt D: D:\ cdrom -t
    mnt c: c:\
    changed the audio blocksize to 1536 to eliminate some initial skipping of the sound
    changed to fullscreen=TRUE

    I ran install.exe through dosbox, and though it seemed to take forever, it did actually install the game and it does run. I can take a quick look when I get home, and I'll mod this post with the dosbox.conf if you want it.
     
  20. A Chimpanzee & 2 Trainees

    A Chimpanzee & 2 Trainees Captain Premium Member

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    oh well, I couldn't edit it, so I'll make a new post. My sttng.conf file is located here...

    sttng.conf for dosbox-0.63

    I ran the install program on the unity cd through dosbox and it ran (more or less) fine....