Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi They A) don't have ships anymore and B) they're not convinced about Jor-El's theory. Only Zod seems to agree. That's a WTF plot moment for you ? That they have animals on Krypton ? They're not cloned. They are grown. And I don't see how that's a WTF since it's very clear. I'm not sure you're clear about what a "WTF moment" is. You might have missed it, but there's a discussion right after that line. Yes, and that makes perfect sense in context. Although I agree that the tornado should have had a visible effect even at a greater distance, it works for the movie that it didn't. He doesn't defeat them, so this one is null and void.