Why Janeway is the Worst Star Trek Captain!

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Zameaze, May 30, 2013.

  1. stj

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    Janeway wasn't particularly inconsistent. In Caretaker, it was clearly established that she'd bend the rules to do the humane thing, and that's pretty consistently what she did.

    Seven of Nine was sometimes proud of being Borg and sometimes virulently antiBorg. She was sometimes harsh, domineering and arrogant and other times a timorous naïf hurt by the mean people around her. These really are inconsistencies, and they really could flip from one week to the next. Since this inconsistency is rarely (be honest, never!) held against the character, it's not true that Janeway was disliked for being inconsistent.
     
  2. teacake

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    You can do it. Try not to come back too soon.
     
  3. Guy Gardener

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    I didn't say it was 10 years out of date.

    You need to think more fourth dimensionally.

    (It's amazing how often I have to type that quote.)
     
  4. Gov Kodos

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    But long winded titles are authoritative, aren't they? Surely, they speak to the vast erudition of the reader and their self-evident intelligence so easily inferred from the presence of such weighty tomes on their shelves?
     
  5. Zameaze

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    If that title intimidated you, I'm sure you stayed out of your university's library at all costs. I used the title because it is a fine example of a book as useful today as when it was written for designing or interpreting experiments in the behavioral and social sciences .
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    That study doesn't even take into account the Eugenics war which ceased 7 years before it's publication.

    Half the planet is dead and Stanford just keeps on trucking as if the human condition hasn't been altered irrevocably.
     
  7. teacake

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    Academia is full of herberts.
     
  8. Zameaze

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    I'm back! I missed you. Here are some special berries I brought back for you. (And no court will convict me: I did't have the color acuity necessary to choose the correct shade of red. You should have picked from the women!)
     
  9. teacake

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    But if I die because you are too XY to ask for berry sorting help the whole landing party will suffer. I'm very important.
     
  10. Zameaze

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    Yes, you were.
     
  11. teacake

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    No one will EVER eat your berries again.
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    Gargamel is an idiot.

    Movie Gargamel.

    He makes magic with ground up Smurfs.

    UNless he routinely catches a couple Smurfs to ground up, and if he was a serial killer of Smurfs, the village would destroy the dirty hermit while he's sleeping, which means that he's buying ground up Smurfs from "the shop" (Yes, the CIA. Shut up.) harvested from other villages, or he's filtrating Smurf biowaste from the watertable if he wasn't out right found a couple abandoned mass latrines. But if you can make make magic out of Smurf poo, then magic comes from what Smurfs eat and not something unique to their anatomy.

    Ground down smurfberries will give you probably more magic than a ground down Smurf.

    Unless, a Smurf is a biological processing factory that turns smurf berries into Magic fuel.

    Obviously if the Smurfs were to change their diet, their ground up limbs could no longer underpin magic and spells.

    They should eat Gargamel.

    Ozrael probably tastes better.

    But the hunter becomes the hunted.

    Can you imagine if they don't kill Gargamel at first, and just cut chunks off him to last the village weeks as Greedy Smurf explains the dishes that he's going to make out of the old wizard with extreme clarity and detail.

    Of course if Gargamel had been eating Smurfs and then Smurfs started eating Gargamel, wouldn't that be one degree of cannibalism?
     
  13. teacake

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    I know people hesitate to eat a predator that has killed and eaten a person. You shoot it but you don't eat it.
     
  14. Gov Kodos

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    What of fruit from trees that happen to be in a cemetery?
     
  15. Guy Gardener

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    That sounds familiar.

    In a movie.

    Something about Tomatoes.
     
  16. teacake

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    I hated that movie. It was one of those movies that if you are a woman your women friends are always trying to watch with you.
     
  17. Gov Kodos

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    'Attack of the Killer Tomatoes' is a popular film with the ladies? I feel better about things.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    I could be thinking about Secret Window, but that was with Corn, but I am most definitely not talking about Fried Green Tomatoes, if that's what you're hinting at.

    I think Shallow Grave?

    Were they making tomato sauce out of tomatoes growing from multiple graves in their backyard
     
  19. Guy Gardener

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    I love the fourth one. The Tomatoes eat France. The actor that played the doofus nighbour Skippy on Family Ties is the male lead, where he's playing a version of himself, and he has this scathing monologue in the beginning about what a jerk Michael J Fox has become since he became a movie star, then this pretty French Girl runs up to him for no reason and he's saying that it is he (Skippy) who is Michael J Fox famous American movie Star.

    :)
     
  20. teacake

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    Fried Green Tomatoes involves cannibalism in the end which is why I thought you were talking about it.