Why Janeway is the Worst Star Trek Captain!

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Zameaze, May 30, 2013.

  1. Zameaze

    Zameaze Commodore Commodore

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    It makes absolutely no difference how they got them to watch. That is why they spend so much on campaigns: Some are going to stay. Let me quote myself from an answer to teacake, "If you have a 60% jump in one episode, some always stay around. Take a look at Tabachnick's Using Multivariate Statistics, and Tracking the Audience: The Ratings Industry."

    Most people have problems with statistics and very large numbers.
     
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  2. teacake

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    All we know for sure is that they lost Lynx.
     
  3. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I wonder if Jennifer Lien asked Lynx if he wanted to spend a weekend over at her house with her family, working their way through the season 4 boxset of Voyager, what his reply to that question would be?
     
  4. teacake

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    Isn't that like asking if god can make a rock so heavy he can't lift it?
     
  5. Guy Gardener

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    The Trinity proscribes a division of labour that facets of god can perhaps have different strengths.

    The Holy Ghost is the mule of this collective.

    The Holy Ghost can lift anything the other two can create.
     
  6. teacake

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    But it would look like those holostretchers in STID when he did it.

    That's what Lynx needs if he wants to have his Kes both ways, invisibility. But then she might not remember to pass him the lemonade.
     
  7. Guy Gardener

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    God knows better than to cameo through another Star Trek movie.

    I just shudder to think how healthy Jennifer's s'mores would be.

    Shredded wheat is a criminal substitute for marshmallow.
     
  8. teacake

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    Marshmallows aren't that unhealthy for you. They have no fat and no cholesterol. There are only about 25 calories in each giant american marshmallow which means the ones I can buy have less than half that. They are mostly just egg, sugar and air.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    She's a nutritionist, facts just get in the way.
     
  10. teacake

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    I wonder if you can make marshmallows out of TOFU.
     
  11. Guy Gardener

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    What's better... Marshmallow stuffed Tofu or Tofu stuffed marshmallow?
     
  12. teacake

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    I've eaten a lot of tofu desserts so I can picture them stuffed with marshmallow. Asian desserts, not nutritionist desserts. So therefore, delicious.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    I did not know that you were not fucking with me, unless you are still fucking with me.

    Tofu for pudding?

    This is because of vegans shying away from eggs and gelatin I suspect.

    Are we ready to forgive Brandon Routh yet?

    Because that stuff about all Vegans having telekenetic powers is hilarious.

    Although... Is it possible that Russel Crowe has put Brando's Napoleon complex in the corner?
     
  14. teacake

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    I know you won't believe me but when Asians do it it is not like when Vegans do it. It is good.

    Here's some pictures:

    http://www.dessertstory.co/products/tofu-pudding-series/

    It's like custard, only smoother and lovelier. Unfortunately tofu came to the west via hippies so for many decades it was horrible. Once you get out from behind the Moosewood curtain a whole lot of ingredients come into their own, because they are made into things people eat for taste rather than for vitamins.
     
  15. Guy Gardener

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    I want one of those dishes almost more than I want Justine Bateman.
     
  16. teacake

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    I could post something about bathtubs but perhaps not.
     
  17. Guy Gardener

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    Bathtubs full of tofu or bathtubs full of Justine?

    Justine bathing in Tofu?

    (Earlier this evening, I was watching a Romcom called "The Night We Never Met.)
     
  18. Zameaze

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    1. Tuvix become a member of the crew, and was given the rank of Lieutenant, nonetheless, Janeway decided it was best to murder him.

    2. Janeway doesn't have the right to murder Tuvix, because Tuvix chose to live, and as a rational and sentient being, had the right to life.

    3. The Doctor refuses to perform the procedure as it is a violation of the Hippocratic oath and his ethical programming given him by Starfleet. The Doctor knows that this is murder.
     
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  19. Brit

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    1. So were Tuvok and Neelix, in fact the case can be made that Tuvok outranked Tuvix.

    2. Appearently she does have the right to make that decision, because we do not see Starfleet chastising her for it either, what we know for sure is that she is promoted when they get back. I believe both Neelix and Tuvok chose to live too (you don't see them offering to return to that combined state do you.) And just because Tuvix says he is sentient doesn't make it so but just incase he is, Tuvok and Neelix are sentient too and for all we know are screaming to get out of Tuvix.

    3. The Doctor has a lot of knowledge all programed into him, and most likely a lot of conflicting knowledge. His decision was pretty immature IMHO, but that would fit because you see the doctor for all his knowledge is very young. My question about him is of course his own sentience. We know for sure he is not at the beginning of the Series, and probably sentient at the ending but have no idea when that connection was made.

    What ever the case Tuvix had no legal claim on the bodies of Neelix or Tuvok dead or alive. He stole them and he needed to give them back.

    I guess you "Equinox" plan to discredit Janeway pretty much failed, so there is no where else to go.
     
  20. JirinPanthosa

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    Tuvix is a better argument than Equinox. If killing one person to save two people is okay then so is experimenting drugs on gypsys without their knowledge.

    As for tofu. I dunno, there are plenty of vegan foods that have protein but also taste like something. Just say no, kids!