Why did Kirk Kill Mitchell?

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  1. Crazyewok

    Crazyewok Commander Red Shirt

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    Just watched were no man has gone before.

    Why didnt they just go with the orginal plan of just marooning him.

    After they fixed the ship they could have just beamed up and left him and Dehner on planet as the transporters were working.

    Once back in contact at starfleet they could have just made the planet a quarantined planet like talos and left it as that.
     
  2. Mario de Monti

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    Maybe Kirk was afraid, Mitchell would ultimately become so powerful that he could force starships to come to him regardless of a quarantine zone ... or escape from Delta Vega some other way.
    Or Kirk just had "issues" after Mitchell killed Kelso.

    I´ve always wondered, if Mitchell was killed at all. When that rock fell on him he had already regained his power. And with his power present, not even a blast from a phaser rifle could harm him.
    Just a thought ...

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  3. Crazyewok

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    There had to be some cap on the power as the crew of the Valient did not end up detroying the Galaxy so his power must have stoped growing at some point.
     
  4. Retu

    Retu Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Except the captain of the Valiant destroyed his own ship before that could happen.
     
  5. feek61

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    Mitchell could make organic material appear out of thin air. What would have stopped him from making a ship appear out of thin air?
     
  6. BillJ

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    I always thought it was pretty clear that Kirk couldn't let Mitchell survive. :shrug:
     
  7. Robert Comsol

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    Apparently, after Mitchell had killed his friend Kelso in cold blood (more like "crushed like an insect" as he had announced he would in the transporter rrom) he had crossed a line and revealed that he had become personified evil (i.e. militant selfish- and ruthlessness) and considering his powers he needed to be stopped, judged (for killing a fellow shipmate) and executed.

    Kirk made that clear with what he probably thought would be his last order:

    KIRK: If you have not received a signal from me within twelve hours, you'll proceed at maximum warp to the nearest Earth base with my recommendation that this entire planet be subjected to a lethal concentration of neutron radiation. No protest on this, Mark. That's an order.

    Of course and most likely, the Q Continuum would have put a stop to Mitchell's rampage (where do the Q come from, did they also encounter the energy barrier?) but Kirk did it himself, so they didn't see the need to interfere. ;)

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  8. Hartzilla2007

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    Doubtful since they probably would only care if he came after them.
     
  9. T'Girl

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    i think that it was less Kirk going after Mitchell to get Mitchell, and more Kirk going to attempt to rescue Dehner.

    Kirk would not have realized that she had "turned," and could easily have thought she had left with Mitchell unwillingly.

    Otherwise Kirk and the ship would have simply left, and proceeded with the plan to irradiate the planet later.

    :)
     
  10. Ssosmcin

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    Mitchell: "I'll just keep getting stronger. You know that, don't you?"

    Yup, he did know that. There was no foreseeable limit to Mitchell's growth and power. Mitchell had to die or else grow so powerful, anything would be possible for him. Even getting off the planet. Either Kirk would have to do the deed, or his last order would (hopefully) take care of it.

    The real question should be, "why didn't Kirk just grab the phaser rifle when Gary was normalized and blow him away instead of having a brawl?" I mean, aside from "the episode had to end with a fistfight in a ditch."
     
  11. DavidGutierrez

    DavidGutierrez Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    On-screen evidence suggests that Micthell flung Kirk's phaser rifle too far away for Kirk to recover it promptly (the parabolic arc looked very long and shallow, we never heard it hit the ground). Coupled with Dehner's warning to Kirk after Mitchell and Dehner's struggle ("Hurry! You haven't much time!") and Kirk probably thought that his only option was to try to kill Mitchell with his bare hands. Or, perhaps he was simply trying to incapacitate him until another solution could be devised.

    Either way, the fistfight never felt forced or contrived to me. In fact, unforced and uncontrived fistfights are my favorite kind. :)
     
  12. DavidGutierrez

    DavidGutierrez Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    And, then I went back at watched the clip with the fistfight and saw that the rifle was actually only a few meters away...my bad.

    Although, it landed in a place Kirk wouldn't have seen when he began fighting Mitchell. It's possible he didn't know where the rifle was until he and Mitchell took the fight over that big boulder and down the hill.

    Still not contrived!
     
  13. Relayer1

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    Doubtful being as they didn't exist at the time...
     
  14. YJAGG

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    after seeing Kelso Kirk realized Spoke and ( and Mitchell) were right he would be so powerful that he had to be stopped ( for good)
     
  15. Kevman7987

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    Hmm. I wonder if Dehner and Mitchell would have eventually become so powerful they would have lost corporeal form and moved on. Our entire reality so below them that they just ignore it?
     
  16. Timo

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    Mitchell already showed signs of being content with building his own paradise - a conventional one, but possibly a first step in creating a whole separate universe for his personal purposes. But that probably wouldn't stop him from blinking other universes on and off just as a hobby project...

    I think Kirk always knew that Spock was right: that Mitchell had to die. But it took a lot until he would admit to this. Grabbing a rifle and going after Mitchell was probably still a half-measure - something that Kirk excused to himself as a "rescue operation" to save Dehner's life, but that in reality was just a final attempt to delay putting Mitchell to death. The rifle still had a stun setting, probably, and at least allowed Kirk to have dialogue from behind the sights; the orbital irradiation would be final.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  17. Galileo7

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    Agree.:vulcan:
     
  18. feek61

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    Kirk knew he didn't have much time. Mitchell is not just going to stand there while Kirk runs over and gets the phaser rifle. He most likely would have used the rocks as cover; causing Kirk to search around for a clear shot. He obviously knew he didn't have time for that and thought that he would get GM while GM was still on the ground.
     
  19. Crazyewok

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    Or he could have just beamed up once he saw Dehner had gone the same way and glassed the planet from orbit.....
     
  20. Timo

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    I guess any attempt at retreating would have been aborted by Mitchell, who by that time very well knew Kirk was watching.

    Not that this need have affected Kirk's decision-making in any way. But I don't see Kirk retreating anyway: he'd probably have been ready to stay back and ensure that Mitchell dies along with Dehner and himself, what with his mounting ire at Mitchell, his mounting despair over his own impotence, and his mounting understanding of the severity of the threat Mitchell really posed to life, the universe and everything.

    Timo Saloniemi